The Wolf of Wall Street

Discussion in 'Movies & Televison: Reviews, Discussions & Debate' started by Xplosive, Dec 30, 2013.

  1. Panchyprsss

    Panchyprsss Clogg's LORD PROTECTOR

    DeNiro is the GOAT.
     
  2. Anthony

    Anthony Admin Staff Member

    Shannon stole that scene but he didnt steal the movie. He was only in a for about 4 minutes. And im sorry, but Shannon, Dicaprio's friend or winslet never once had a scene this powerful in that movie.

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  3. Anthony

    Anthony Admin Staff Member

    Also, Dicaprio is much more accomplished at 40 than Deniro was at 40


    Deniro by Age 40:

    Bloody Mama (Small Part)
    Bang the Drum slowly
    Mean Streets
    Godfather Part 2
    Taxi Driver
    Deer Hunter
    Raging Bull
    King of Comedy


    Dicaprio by Age 40:

    What's Eating Gilbert Grape
    This Boy's Life
    Basketball Diaries
    Marvin's Room
    Titanic
    Catch Me if You Can
    The aviator
    The Departed
    Blood Diamond
    The Beach
    Revolutionary Road
    Body of Lies
    Shutter Island
    J. Edgar
    Django Unchained
    Inception
    The Great Gatsby
    Wolf of Wall street
     
  4. Panchyprsss

    Panchyprsss Clogg's LORD PROTECTOR

    :red:Hold your horses! DiCaprio started as a boy (next to Robert DeNiro in 'This Boy's Life') so obviously he has a bigger resume. BUT look at the majority of DeNiro films in your list: they were done in the 70's decade alone! And most of them are considered great films plus he got nominated for Oscars in four of them, winning in two. Every time DeNiro had a film done it was a damn event. You knew he was going to deliver a masterful performance...before he sold out.
     
  5. Anthony

    Anthony Admin Staff Member

    Age doesnt mean anything. THe fact he started young adds to his legacy. The 70s is the golden age of movies. But deniro's movies and characters were similar. Not much range between them. And this coming from the biggest bobby D fan out there.
     
  6. TKO

    TKO Administrator Staff Member

    :bears:
     
  7. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    I've always felt that Pacino in his best performances is better than DeNiro ever was.

    DeNiro has never really come close to Pacino's performances in the first two Godfather's, And Justice For All, Dog Day Afternoon, Scent of a Woman, and Glengarry.

    Perhaps DeNiro was more versatile than Pacino, but Al just had a certain charisma about him that commanded the screen in a way that DeNiro didn't.
     
  8. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

    LOL, basically a list of movies... If "More Accomplished" means "Made more Movies" than yeah, DiCaprio is "more accomplished"

    "Taxi Driver" and "Mean Streets" are not only better than fucking ANYTHING on DiCaprio's list but they are better by a huge margin
     
  9. I don't recall who, but someone once described DeNiro's acting as 'his usual mugging bag of tricks'...
     
  10. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    Leo isn't as good as prime DeNiro. I don't know if DeNiro is the goat, but he's damn sure top 10 all time, and Leo is not. Leo is very talented though, and it's possible that his best performance is yet to come.
     
  11. TKO

    TKO Administrator Staff Member

    Agreed, DeNiro was an all time great in some of the best movies.

    It's very difficult for any current actor to compete with the likes of Dog Day Afternoon, Taxi Drive etc
     
  12. Anthony

    Anthony Admin Staff Member

    Those movies are great movies. And please with your bullshit. You probably havent seen the majority of them. You havent seen one of his best performances ever in Django and gonna try and tell me some shit. Also, Deniro wasnt even the star of Mean Streets so you cant put the whole movie on him.
     
  13. Anthony

    Anthony Admin Staff Member

    Pacino did dog day, but i get what you are saying
     
  14. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

    we are going by performances, no?

    DeNiro was fantastic in Mean Streets... fucking iconic

    I have seen every one of those except Django and most of them are SHIT films, you fucking fanboy
     
  15. Anthony

    Anthony Admin Staff Member

    And Dicaprio was fantastic in Basketball Diaries. You think most of the movies i listed are shit just proves my point. You have no credibility. Sorry.
     
  16. Anthony

    Anthony Admin Staff Member

    This scene by dicaprio was brilliant. And could rival Deniro's performance in Mean Street's in terms of range.

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  17. ArturoGatti

    ArturoGatti WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    :eek:ff:


    DDL
    Shannon
    Fassbender
    Bardem
    Bale

    and that's just the Hollywood guys.
     
  18. ArturoGatti

    ArturoGatti WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    :Rock3:
    comparing dc to dn is flat out insulting to bob.
     
  19. Anthony

    Anthony Admin Staff Member

    Overall, yes. But not comparing by the age of 40.
     
  20. Anthony

    Anthony Admin Staff Member

    After the age of 40, deniro turned in some unbelievable performances. But Dicaprio just turned 40 so lets see where it goes.

    With Deniro after 40 you have

    Brazil
    The Untouchables
    The Mission
    Midnight Run
    Goodfellas
    Awakenings
    Backdraft
    Capefear
    This Boy's Life
    A Bronx Tale
    Casino
    Heat
    The Fan
    Sleepers
    Copland
    Jackie Brown
    Ronin
    The Score
    Flawless
    Men of Honor
    The Good Shepherd
    Stardust
    Everybody's Fine
    Being Flynn
    Silver Lining Playbook

    Dicaprio has a job to do. The problem is that Dicaprio is putting out oscar level performances almost every movie now. And deniro and this list arent all oscar potential performances. And while Deniro is Fucking great, his acting range also peaked at one point during his 40s and his characters started to become the same.
     
  21. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

    I do not see DiCaprio putting out "Oscar Level" performances every movie if you mean that to be some sort of unbelievable compliment... He fucking ISN'T

    Now if you mean it like Nicolas Cage "Oscar Level", then yeah sure
     
  22. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

    Eat shit

    You thinking every fucking movie is amazing proves mine.
     
  23. Anthony

    Anthony Admin Staff Member

    But again, you have no credibility when it comes to movies so who gives a shit what you think.
     
  24. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

    I told you to speak English
     
  25. Anthony

    Anthony Admin Staff Member

    I mean cdogg is a guy that says an academy award winner for best actor cant act. How the hell can you even come close to knowing what you are talking about.
     
  26. TKO

    TKO Administrator Staff Member

    :lol: I knew that
     
  27. TKO

    TKO Administrator Staff Member


    :bears:
     
  28. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

    You take the Academy Awards seriously. That's all that needs to be said.

    "Titanic" for best picture? "Gladiator"? Titanic was one of the biggest pieces of shit I ever saw, you probably think it is a masterpiece because it won some gold statues on TV
     
  29. Anthony

    Anthony Admin Staff Member

    I make that mistake sometimes too.
     
  30. Anthony

    Anthony Admin Staff Member

    While i didnt love Titanic because Im not a woman (their target audience) i can still appreciate it for it being a big movie. The acting, set production, producing, editing and just sheer magnitude beat out any movie that year up for nomination. What movie would you have had win that year?

    Gladiator was awesome and should have won over all the other categories nominated.

    The oscars make mistakes, no doubt. But they usually make mistakes with winners, but not nominations. And even if you are nominated, which cage has won and been nominated for, proves you have some acting chops. Anyone that has seen adaptation (probably cage's best performance) and Leaving las vegas and says he cant act, has no credibility.
     

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