KOVALEV vs. STEVENSON in Late Summer or Fall???...

Discussion in 'General Boxing Discussion' started by REEDsART, Feb 5, 2014.

  1. REEDsART

    REEDsART MATCHMAKER

  2. HardDog

    HardDog Leap-Amateur

    I have to favor Kovalev in this match-up. Stevenson is a hard puncher, but he gets a bit wild, and has leaky defense. I don't think we'll see the final bell.
     
  3. Jimmy

    Jimmy The Greatest of Are Times

    Great matchup.
     
  4. Ugotabe Kidding

    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Interesting fight. Wonder when was the last time that arguably the two hardest punchers in the world have met each other
     
  5. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

    Jackson-McClellan?
     
  6. Ugotabe Kidding

    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Likely, or Benn-McClellan. Not too often anyways


    I am pretty confident Kovalev takes is, but here if ever one punch can change it all
     
  7. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker


    Jackson was a bigger puncher than Benn.

    The fact that Stevenson can punch, is a southpaw, and Kov's chin is still basically untested means that Stevenson has a chance. However, while I don't know if Kov can take Stevenson's punch, I do know that Stevenson CANNOT handle Kov's power. And Kov is the more technically sound and consistent of the two.

    Kov will walk him down and put him to sleep in under 6.
     
  8. ArturoGatti

    ArturoGatti WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Lewis-Klitschko?

    Benn was not that big of a puncher at 168.
     
  9. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    Quitali was never a devastating one punch KO artist. He had clubbing power.

    I'd say Lewis-Tua. They were considered the two biggest punchers in the sport when they fought. It's a shame that the fight was such a fucking borefest.
     
  10. joony

    joony "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    i think it's fair to assume that kolaev would hurt and KO stevenson when he lands, but i'm more curious to see how kolaev reacts when he gets hit clean. i see that many are already favoring kolaev, but i might lean towards stevenson.
     
  11. Ugotabe Kidding

    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    I think it is almost sure thing that Kovalev gets also hurt if he gets hit. Kovalev has been dropped in the amateurs, which seems to suggest that his chin isn't pure granite, and anything less than that WILL get hurt by Stevenson, who is a huge puncher. Thus, just like was the case in McClellan vs Jackson, the question is not what happens when one of them gets hit (since that is obvious) but WHICH ONE is it. In my opinion that one is most likely Stevenson, since Kovalev seems to have the better technique and greater variety of power punches
     
  12. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

    Fun matchup

    Gimme Kovalev by KO, but it'll be interesting to see how far Stevenson's outrageous self-confidence can take him
     
  13. Jesus of montreal

    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    I think a lot of you are overrating Kovalev. He,s a good fighter, but he tend to walk straight in. That will be disastrous for him against a tricky southpaw, wich happens to be a huge puncher. Though, I've always think that Stevenson is fragile, even if he never really shown it (the Boone Ko was an humongous, once in a lifetime lucky punch).

    Still, I pick Stevenson by KO
     
  14. SilentNight

    SilentNight Undisputed Champion

    Stevenson is sloppy but he's more defensively sound than Kovalev is.

    Stevenson takes this.
     
  15. SilentNight

    SilentNight Undisputed Champion

    Unless he's made incredible improvement over the year I'd say Kovalev is the most basic fighter I've seen at the world class level in a while. Stevenson probably dominates him.
     
  16. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

    I like Stevenson by early KO in this one. He's gonna catch Kovalev coming in with some big shots.
     
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    He's not basic at all, there are plenty more basic fighters at world level.

    What makes you think he's basic, because he is very aggressive? And not up on his toes, jabbing and countering? He is craftier than his style suggests. Good feints, traps, counterpunching, and not the easiest guy to hit.
     
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    I'm surprised. Maybe I'm underrating Stevenson, but I'm not sold on him at all. Kovalev just seems better and more solid to me.

    I pick Kovvles to walk him down, beat him up, and stop him in 6 or 7 rounds.
     
  19. SilentNight

    SilentNight Undisputed Champion

    Feint?

    When have you ever seen him feint? He feints the least I've ever seen from a high level pro fighter. He moves forward and punches, doesn't move his head, and he is a good counterpuncher but against rank level competition. He hasn't faced anyone particularly athletic who are much hard to counter and time...especially considering he's slow.


    I think hes going to eat shots coming in yes but I think ultimately hes going to get knocked out when he drops his hands after a lull in punching like he seems to have a habit of doing.


    He's nothing special at all. Just another overrated puncher. GGG is far above his level in technical skill.
     
    Last edited: Feb 6, 2014
  20. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

    yeah, i've changed my mind already. Kovalev KO 3.
     
  21. ArturoGatti

    ArturoGatti WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    :gig:

    I think Kovalev wins this, but it should be very competitive.
     
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    :lol: :bears:
     
  23. Slice N Dice

    Slice N Dice Big stiff idiot

    :lol: I didn't see that one but I'm surprised it contained radioactive material
     
  24. Ugotabe Kidding

    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    :bears::laugh11:
     
  25. REEDsART

    REEDsART MATCHMAKER

    The Styles Mesh PERFECTLY Here...

    The Antidote for a Wild Swinging, Undisciplined Fighter is a TIGHT, COMPACT Puncher like Kovalev...Just as the BEST Way to Offset a PRECISION Oriented Guy is w/a Risky, UNTAMED Manner of Fighting, like Stevenson's...& When BOTH Individuals Possess Single Shot, Fight ENDING Power, in EITHER Hand, You have the Recipe for a SHORT, EXCITING Fight...

    Despite his More TRADITIONAL Style, Kovalev ISN'T 1 of those Skilled Guys that Starts Slowly, ie., Feeling Out his Foe...He's Trying to KNOCK your Head Off your Shoulders from the 1st Second of Round 1, it just Doesn't LOOK Like he's Trying All that Hard...Kovalev's Soooooo HeavyHanded, he Doesn't Require Much VISIBLE Torque or Wind Up, to Deliver CONCUSSIVE Punches...It's a RARE Gift in Boxing...Something You Simply CANNOT Teach or Train...

    Whereas, Stevenson INVESTS More in his Shots...In a Way, it's like Comparing Foreman & Tyson...Both EXTREMELY Hard Punchers, w/Foreman Being the More EFFORTLESS Deliverer of Power...

    REED's Banking on Two Things:

    1. Kovalev's More TEXTBOOK Punching Angles Resulting in him LANDING 1st...
    2. Kovalev Being Able to HANDLE the Incoming BETTER than Stevenson Can...

    BOTH Guys will Likely Be HURT &/or DROPPED Here...But REED Likes Kovalev to BEAT Stevenson to the Punch @ a HIGHER Rate, Ending Matters in the 3rd or 4th...No Way Does this Fight Last to Even the MIDWAY Point, Regardless WHO Wins...

    Kovalev-Stevenson PROMISES to Be a Brief, VIOLENT Contest...



    REED:hammert:
     
  26. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

    :drl:
     
  27. Neil

    Neil tueur de grenouilles

    it seems we shall have to endure them in separate bouts. who are you guys picking when Kovalev faces Spiro t. Agnew? stevenson will be challenging the noodle necked "pollack" fonfara
     
  28. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    I think Agnew owns a win over Chris Henry. He should be made a solid favorite over Kov.
     
  29. mikE

    mikE "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    His right hand back then might have been the hardest punch in the sport. Not sure they were the two hardest punchers at the time, though. Jackson vs McClellan probably was, though.

    I think the best way to really answer this is to get out some older p4p puncher lists and start looking.
     
  30. Irish

    Irish Yuge, Beautiful

    Habitual line snorter.
     

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