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  1. Anthony

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    duncan does a good job on hiibbard
     
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    Pacers are just taking it easy.

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    Miami now in first place.
     
  4. REEDsART

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    Pacers Get EMBARRASSED by 26 Points on THEIR Homecourt...

    The "Indiana TITANICS" is a More Appropriate Name, Given their Play Over the Last 6 Weeks or So...

    Even Within Their Conference, they Just MIGHT Get Eliminated PRIOR to the East Finals...Steadily WORRYING about Miami, While Chicago, Brooklyn, the Wizards or Raptors Could UPSET Them 1st...





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    Haymaker WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    I don't even know wtf is wrong with Indiana, they have the same team. Is it fatigue?
     
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    mental. but they could still win.
     
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    Haymaker WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    I know but it's an epic meltdown, to the point that they're attacking each other in the media.
     
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    Dog Jones WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Due to the Pacers tanking to avoid the Knicks, the Spurs set a franchise record for the quietest winning streak ever at 18
     
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    yeah that is not good.
     
  10. REEDsART

    REEDsART MATCHMAKER

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    It's Probably INFIGHTING if TLC's Quotes were Accurate...

    Every Team Plays the SAME Amount of Games...Indy was FINE After 82 Games Last Year...Indy HASN'T Played Anywhere Near the Same Amount of OVERALL Games (Regular + Post-Season) Miami Has Over the Last 4 Years, so REED Isn't Buying the "Fatigue" Argument...

    They're SHRIVELING from the WEIGHT of EXPECTATIONS, Most of Which they Placed on THEMSELVES @ the Beginning of the Season...It's Not Often Such a Good Team UNRAVELS Before Our Eyes Like This...




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    EASTERN Conference Playoff Picture, if It Started TODAY...

    Miami vs. Atlanta
    Indiana vs. Charlotte
    Toronto vs. Washington
    Chicago vs. Brooklyn

    New York's Still within STRIKING Distance of the 8th Spot, Only 2 Games Behind, but they'd End Up Being ROADKILL for Miami, in a Series...Cleveland has an OUTSIDE Chance of Breaking their PlayoffLESS Streak, as Well, 4 Games Behind Atlanta...

    As for the Projected Matchups, As BAD as Indy's Been Playing, they'll STILL Beat Charlotte...Al Jefferson's had a CAREER Year, Kemba Walker's STEADILY Improving & Indy's Obviously Been STRUGGLING, but they'll Get PAST Charlotte, Regardless...

    Miami TOYS w/Atlanta...

    Toronto vs. Washington Will Be a PLAYOFF Showcase of Some of the Leagues Up & Coming STARS...w/Wall, Beal AND Gortat, REED Thinks Washington has MORE Potential...If John Wall's the Player REED THINKS he Is, he'll SHINE in his 1st Ever Playoff Series...

    Indy AND Miami will BOTH Breathe Sighs of RELIEF, if Chicago & Brooklyn Bump Heads in the 1st Round...




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    https://twitter.com/1070Bruno/statuses/450849035419533313

    @WindhorstESPN reports GHill and Lance traded words and had to be separated by teammates during huddle in 2nd half.


    Tyler ‏@tsdeal 57m
    @1070Bruno Then they went back and forth. HIll left the huddle. Butler tried to calm lance. Hill threw his water bottle. Stayed on outside

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    @1070Bruno of the huddle. And didnt participate despite Butler trying to urge him to get in. Lance and Hill didn't go back in after TO.
     
  13. TexMex

    TexMex Fightbeat IQ Champ

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    Beverly will be back in 2-3 weeks, apparently Karma didn't think Bev's play was dirty at all, since Westbrook does the exact same play.

    Westbrooks reaction to the news....


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  14. TexMex

    TexMex Fightbeat IQ Champ

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    Umm, Howard is listed as day to day. Some Clippers mouthpiece says Dwight said he's out for 10 days and you believe it?

    He will be back asap, no question. All ya'll shitting on Dwight for absolutely nothing. Dumbasses :giggle:
     
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    i dont get the howard hate either, but if he's out and misses several games houston may drop to a lower seed and exit r1. howard is the best center in the league and would be one of the top centers in any era.
     
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    Morey is the BEST GM in the NBA, and will probably win Executive of the year.

    In 3 years, he totally rebuilt the Rockets from the Yao/T-mac era without tanking.

    How is this possible???

    Traded Chase Budinger for 18th overall pick, Chase was a second round pick for the Rockets
    Traded Samuel Dalembert and 14th pick for the 12th overall pick
    Traded Lowry for a guaranteed lottery pick


    Drafted Parsons and locked him up for 4 years on the NBA's best contract.
    Traded for James Harden with the picks he received through the trades he made above + Kmart
    Signed FA Dwight Howard

    Will have cap space for ANOTHER max free agent in 2015, if he can unload Lin & Asik this summer, he will have that max cap space THIS summer.

    How did the Rockets have cap space for Harden and then Dwight and possibly another superstar very soon?

    One reason is he didn't agree to give Dragic a 4th year player option. Morey WANTED Dragic and offered him a 3 year deal, but wanted flexibility more and didn't give him a 4th year player option.

    Lowry was butting heads with McHale, he wanted out. Kyle has recently stated he regretted it.

    I tried to answer lb 4 lb's questions also.


    I don't think I've seen any team completely rebuild in 3 years without tanking. Morey is a genius, not a moron, without the moves he made, The Rockets would still be stuck in mediocrity, instead of having Harden, Parsons, Howard and very soon, one of Rondo, Love, or Melo. Yes, the Rockets will get one of those players.
     
  17. TexMex

    TexMex Fightbeat IQ Champ

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    Nah, Rockets are pretty much locked in at the 4th seed if they don't catch the Clippers, the Blazers are way too far behind. Even if Dwight misses a few games, Asik is a great back up.
     
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    Howard was the best player on that team as well as the face of the franchise, hence he gets the credit for taking his team to the finals. Any argument against that is just what you're doing now, nitpicking a resume apart. Lots of players who went to the finals or won championships defeated teams who had top players injured and weren't at full strength, it's the NBA, it happens...a lot. Going to the finals is going to the finals, and whether Howard wins a championship or not at least that is one thing he doesn't have to worry about hanging over his whole career the way guys like T-Mac did. I know what Howard allegedly did is pretty bad but we have to keep things in perspective here.
     
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    Admittedly I knew about the problems Lowry was having with the organization when I wrote my post, it just made things look worse by adding it in lol.

    Is Morey the best GM in the league? I wouldn't go that far but he's definitely up there. However 2 of his moves have pretty much backfired. The Asik and Lin deals. They need to dump Asik because he wants to start and Lin is severely over paid. You say he's going to have that cap space this summer but please tell me how do you see that happening? The very poison pill he put in both Lin and Asik's contracts that allowed him to steal both guys from their previous teams is the same poison pill detriment working against him moving those guys. Nobody wants to pay that poison pill year fee, it can kill a teams cap. Asik is the guy who has the talent that teams would probably pay it anyway, but the problem is how the hell are the Rockets going to find a team that will give them equal or close value in return? They couldn't do it before the trade deadline. And Lin, forget about anyone taking that guy, he's too over paid.
     
  20. TexMex

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    It's only 8.3 million counting towards the cap, not the 15 million. They do get paid 15 million. NBA teams fire coaches with guaranteed money all the time, so the actual monetary amount they get paid is not a big a deal as it seems, the cap figure is, and like I stated earlier, it's only 8.3.

    If a cheap ass team has a problem paying the 15, the NBA's CBA allows any team to send 3 million dollars to any team for a transaction to be made. So if needed for some cheap owner, the Rockets could send the acquiring team 3 mill to soften the blow.

    Asik could be traded pretty easily, Morey is just not a sucker. He will wait for a good deal, or just wait for the contract to expire.

    Lin will be harder, but much like the Warriors getting rid of those awful contracts last summer (Biedrins and Jefferson), the Rockets could as well, by sending a draft pick, and those Warrior contracts were even worse and Utah took them both.

    I think Morey is going to push to get rid of Asik and Lin this year, he will then go hard after Melo or try to trade for another max player such as Rondo. Reason being is he needs to sign/trade for that next big Free Agent before he can extend Parsons. Rockets can go over the cap since they have Parson's bird rights and being able to give Parsons a qualifying offer this summer, will make him a RESTRICTED free agent. If they wait another year, he will be a UNRESTRICTED free agent and that means more money.
     
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    Nobody uploaded that Spurs Pacers game to my torrent site so I didn't get to see it. Seeing as how it wasn't the tight match up I was hoping for I'm glad I didn't see it. I have to catch the Spurs versus the Thunder game though. I'll bet the Thunder lose it but it should at least be competitive.
     
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    As Much as You TRY Equating Westbrook & Beverley, it's just NOT There...& if OKC Weren't a CONSTANT Thorn in Houston's Side, REED Bets You'd AGREE...



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    Or Maybe Howard DID Say It (It Wouldn't Exactly Be UNLIKE Him to Pull the Shit Suggested), Houston Brass Got WIND & Told Dwight they WEREN'T Having It???...

    Howard ISN'T a Saint All of a Sudden, just Because he's Rocking a Rockets Uniform, Dog...




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    Nobody's "Hating" on Howards PLAY...Even in a DOWN Year, he's Good for 18 & 11...

    He's FAKE Though...He Wants to Be LIKED, Wants to Be the JOVIAL Big Man, Publicly...Privately, he Gets a Coach Fired, then Repeatedly LIES About It, While Also WRECKING 2 Franchises, in Back to Back Seasons...

    The Infamous Clip where Howard Walks in on a Van Gundy Interview (Where Van Gundy was Revealing he KNEW Dwight Asked for his Dismissal), w/that Shit Eating Grin, Putting his Arm Around Van Gundy, is PRICELESS...The Way Van Gundy Walks Away, Midstream, Really Says ALL You Need to Know about Dwight Howard, OFF the Court...

    He's DISINGENUOUS...




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    Coward simply doesn't have the killer instinct and competitive nature that a great player should have. If he had it, maybe he could have been on the same tier as say, Ewing.

    He wouldn't be as good as Kareem, Hakeem, or Shaq regardless of his mentality, he just isn't as talented/good as they were, which is no disgrace.
     
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    I'm not TRYING to do anything, Westbrook has done and will do the exact play Bev did to him in which you called him a dirty bitch player for. Bev still hasn't EVER committed a flagrant foul. Westbrook has.

    Barnes is known as a dirty player, guess what? He has more flagrants than anyone in the NBA in the last ten years.

    Then you say Bev showed no remorse, well I showed you he did and how did Westbrook react?

    You know your hoops Reed, you should def know the difference between being a hard ass defensive player and being a dirty ass player.
     
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    I never called him a saint.

    So basically you would rather believe he did say it because a Clipper mouthpiece says he did???

    Meanwhile, Howard is traveling with the team to Brooklyn and Toronto because he may PLAY.

    To each his own I guess.
     
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    That's one thing I don't do, is judge players due to off court BS. I give two fucks what players do off the court, I don't personally know them.

    A down year? 18.5 and 12.5 on 59% shooting in 34 mins per? That's basically his career averages...

    I don't like Westbrook because he's a whiney bitch chucker Marbury 2.0, I don't like Kobe because he yells "HEEEEYYYY" everytime he drives to the hoop, NOT because he may or may not have raped someone, I'm not his woman and not that white chick's dad.
     
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    who the fuck is this clipper mouthpiece? ralph lawler ?
     
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    You must hate Harden.
     

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