FATHER TIME UD Floyd???

if anything the fight showed that mayweather jr is not as good as the jackal at this point

 

When is Noble's favorite fighter due to fight again?

 

^ july 19th in china vs some dominican can crusher named Guzman

 

He'll win, naturally, because he's really, really good at boxing

 

i re-watched it again today..

I scored each round and ended up 9 rounds to 3 for Floyd

I just don't think being aggressive but not landing a lot.. head butting, etc... is winning.

FLoyd won.

that said.. Floyd IMO has no doubt slowed a step. He should fight his 3 fights or whatever it is and get out

i still pick him to beat Pac if they fought but I think and hope Floyd doesn't stick around too long

 

I pre-banned him already.

 

Floyd should whup him easier than this time, he'll make him pee blood and poop out nasties

 

Rigo is definitely better than Floyd at this point.

 

i thought the typical puerto rican slander was dumb in a can ?

 

:like: it's the right thing to do

 

Even you think so?

You think he'd win if they were the same size? It's hard to imagine anyone around today outboxing Floyd to be honest. Outhustling him or pressuring the shit out of him sure, but not outboxing him.

 

Rigo and Ward are both arguably better than Floyd now. It's hard for me to imagine either one of them struggling with a scrub like Maidana.

People are thinking it's such a huge stretch that Floyd looked good against Canelo, yet crap against Maidana. At 37, that's what happens. You can literally turn old in one fight.

 

I don't see it, personally. Canelo has an extremely low workrate and is not aggressive... Maidana is extremely aggressive and busy... That was the difference in the fights, IMO

I don't buy that Floyd suddenly turned old... I buy that he was dealing with an entirely different style of opponent

 

To me he looked a tad bit quicker on the trigger in the Canelo fight in general.

Even in the Cotto fight, Cotto put on a lot of pressure and Floyd looked quicker on the trigger then.

Sometimes it's not as gradual as people like to believe. When you're in your late 30's, speed, and reflexes can slow in one fight.

 

Shorter opening post of thread:

Credit to Madaina but no credit. I'd rather proceed under the fantasy that PBF is invincible.

Incidentally, anyone recall what the excuses were for the Castillo and ODH fights?

Sorry but these debates are necessary as long as there are proponents out there of the theory that PBF at 100% is unbeatable.

 

you drinking again?

 

Except for Alexander the Fake.

 

the truth

 

Maidana is probably allot more difficult to read than Canelo. It might just be like Hopkins vs Taylor or Forrest vs Mayorga where an awkward, wild guy who's tough to read throws a more technical/circumspect guy off his rhythm & makes him second guess himself. I'm waiting until we see him against somebody else before i leap to conclusions.

 

that^

 

Pretty much how I see it.

Plus, I think Floyd was mentally unprepared for Maidana's caveman ferocity.

 

I see what people are saying with the comparison to Taylor and mayorga. But madaina is a better fighter than those guys in my opinion. For one, neither of those guys had the gas tank to fight the way madaina did. So besides the awkwardness, there's also the matter of madaina ' s work rate and punch volume. Also, neither of those guys shortened their punches the way madaina does.

It's not like pbf hasn't fought awkward guys before. Baldomir? There's no shortage of awkward bums on pbf ' s resume, as we all know.

Point is, madaina brings more than just awkwardness. Nontheless, I'm not surprised at all by the efforts to slowly but surely discredit madaina in a most likely unconscious effort to fortify the pbf myth that so many fight fans seem unable to live without.

 

cuello, rios, baldomir, maidana.

 

I don't think Baldomir was awkward in that way. Maidana, Mayorga and Taylor all seem to disguise shots by throwing them kinda 'wrong' - wide and from weird angles and outwith a conventional rhythm.

Neil gives a good shout with Cuello. never seen that fight before but from looking at bits of it he looks like that kinda guy