Better Fight: Chavez-Taylor 1 or Trinidad-Vargas

That's the point. It's 36 minutes, not 35:58, he could have made it another two seconds. He was coherent.

 

The principle isn't the time though, it's the state he was in.

 

Exactly, that's the key point for me. When I first saw the fight I was really surprised that Taylor was much less fucked looking than I expected.

 

I gave Taylor 7 of the first 8 rounds. Chavez had a good 2nd round I thought.

I gave Chavez rounds 9 and 11, and round 10 could have gone either way. That was a great round.

7-3-1 Taylor going into the 12th.

But although it was nearly a shutout on my card after 8, the rounds were competitive. Chavez was landing solid shots throughout, Taylor was just outspeeding and outworking him.

Sometimes shutouts, or near shutouts, are far more dominating than others. For example, Mayweather-Mosley through 8, and Chavez-Taylor or Mayweather-Jesus Chavez through 8. Similar scores, but obviously the Chavezes were more competitive as Mosley did nothing after the first minute of the 2nd round.

 

Are you okay? Are you okay? No answer. Fight over. I will never ever budge on this. It has been discussed 1000 times

 

Who cares if he didn't answer? You could see he was relatively OK.

Some fighters just don't answer the ref, even if they're not hurt at all. After getting knocked down, even if not hurt, they're just kind of "in the zone" focusing on recovering, or looking at their opponent, gearing themselves up mentally. You can see it sometimes, it's almost like they can't even see the ref.

Blatant gift for Chavez.

 

Nah, he wasn't out of it at all. He was hurt, but not done. He was steady enough on his feet, and his eyes were fairly clear.

Him being completely done is pure Chavez fan bullshit.

 

Taylor AND Lou Duva Always Maintained Meldrick Was Looking Towards Duva for Instructions...He was CLEARLY Looking that Direction AND, when the Fight was Waved Off, Taylor IMMEDIATELY Reacted...

Taylor Took a SEVERE Asswhipping, but he Had SOME "Wits" about Him, Still...

Don King Promotion, Don King Ref, Don King's UNDEFEATED Cash Cow (@ the Time)...There's PLENTY of Reason to @ Least WONDER if Something Fishy was Going On...

Just Saying...





REED:dunno:

 

Check out Chavez-Taylor 2.

Obviously not as great as the first, but still a very good fight.

 

don king in canastota to see richard steal inducted into HOF. he wasnt only there for trinidad

 

Aint me.

 

Fuck him... What the fuck is Duva doing there on the ring apron? Why's Taylor ignoring the referee and looking at Duva? That's the biggest bullshit excuse there is... He's so "with it" that he doesn't even notice a referee shouting at him, looking him directly in the face?

 

How so? They were practically swollen shut

Are you okay? Are you okay? Never looks at Steele, never nods, doesn't lift his gloves... no acknowledgment... just staring off in Lou Duva's general direction... "Oh, but he protested when Steele stopped it!" ... well maybe he should have shown that alertness when Steele was assessing his ability to continue and asking him point blank, mere inches from his face ARE YOU OKAY??

All he had to do was look at Steele ONCE and nod and the fight is resumed, the bell rings and he wins a split decision... Blame him, blame Lou Duva if you want, but to blame Steele is absurd. His job is to protect the health of the fighter... He's not a timekeeper and you can not be saved by the bell anyway

 

There's No Way to KNOW that for Certain, Bro...Even if Taylor Responded, Steele Could've Very Easily Waved the Fight Off Anyways...

REED's Mostly Playing Devil's Advocate Here, but the King/Steele/Chavez Relationship Always Made the Stoppage SUSPICIOUS @ the Very Least...




REEDopcorn:

 

clogg wants to ignore the fact that Steele was seen rolling around vegas in a brand new caddy after that fight. of course it would hurt his agenda as a whitaker apologist !!

 

my beef with it is that Steel seems to be in a hurry to stop the fight.

 

:giggle:

 

If he had responded to Steele and Steele had STILL stopped it, I'd be on Mel's side with this issue... Believe it, my man

 

That's if the fighter is on the deck and doesn't get up in time. A ref can't stop the fight after the fight is over, you mook ::

 

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So why fans ALWAYS booed Steele after this fight til the day he retired?

 

Tyson-Ruddock 1 didn't help his case.