Who's more unlikable: Garcia or Roach?

Which one of these arrogant pricks is more annoying?

For the record, I do mean Robert Garcia.

Angel Garcia is a great personality.

 

Roach used to be likeable, but time revealed his ego and his punk ass attitude hidden behind the Parkinson and the nerd glasses. Garcia is scum, he's the kind of scum that Fernando Vargas associates with. I would say Garcia.

 

Roach...

He TOES Racial Lines, Particularly w/Mexicans...He MILKS the "Poor, Pitiful, Parkinson's" Schtick on 1 Hand, yet Runs Off @ the Mouth Talking Shit about Upcoming Opponents, on the Other...

The Whole Scene w/Him Trying to Assert Some PERCEIVED Authority, by FORCING Team Rios to Leave when HE Wanted them To, Then Resorting to Calling them "Mexican Motherfuckers", was SHAMEFUL...

More than Anything, the Way the MEDIA Treats Roach, Is Annoying...They're Wedged Up in his Ass, Tighter than a Dela Hoya Dildo...




REED:hammert:

 

Yes. Probably Garcia.

 

Yes. Probably Roach.

 

I've never really found much reason to dislike Roach, tbh. Calling somebody a 'Mexican bastard' in a fight isn't enough for me. I've called people worse.

 

I don't like Virgil Hunter either. He's another arrogant prick. Much like his top fighter in personality.

Ruben Guerrero might be the worst of all of them though. I wish Alton Merkerson was around to knock that fuckin scumbag out.

 

He's Also the 1 that Nicknamed Pacquiao "The Mexican Assassin", a Nickname Pac Rocked for Quite a Few Fights @ '22-'26, vs. Primarily MEXICAN Opponents...

NOT the Worst Transgression Ever Committed, but yet Another Notch on the UNLIKABLE-O-Meter...



REED:hammert:

 

REED's Indifferent about Garcia...Don't Like OR Dislike Him...

Him & Margarita Joking w/the Cement Block, Wrapping his Hands was in POOR Taste, but that's the Only Instance REED Can Recall, Where Garcia was OUTWARDLY Being Somewhat of a Dick...




REED:hammert:

 

I give the nod to Garcia over Roach for ONE SIMPLE REASON: Elie Seckbach.

 

Virgil Hunter Thinks HIGHLY of Himself, for Sure...

But When You're the Trainer of a Guy that HASN'T Lost a Fight Since he was 9 Years Old, or Whatever, it's Understandable...& UNLIKE Roach w/Pacquiao, Hunter Started & BUILT Andre Ward from Scratch...He Didn't Acquire Andre Ward...

Guerrero's Old Man is THE Worst...

REED Used to Like Him & the Panama Jack Hat, UNTIL "Mayweather-Guerrero 24/7"...It was like Dude was Auditioning for his OWN Reality Show, he was Trying Sooooooo Hard...Then, he Had the AUDACITY to Act as if Guerrero WON the Fight Afterwards, Saying Floyd "Ran" & All that Nonsensical Bullshit...

The RINGSIDE Ammy Tournament has an Old Man's Division & Usually it's TRAINERS Getting in there, Duking it Out w/Each Other...It'd Be COOL as Hell if Boxing Had an Senior Circuit or Trainer's Division...REED Would Pay TOP PPV Dollars to Watch Roach, Angel Garcia, Guerrero's Old Man & Others Get the Shit Beaten Out of Them...

Imagine Floyd Sr. & Uncle Roger Getting it On For Real, Instead of Hating Each Other from a Distance???...




REED:bravo:

 

Why So???...Did Garcia Do or Say Something to Seckbach???...Was he Talking Shit on his Show or Something???...




REED:dunno:

 

No, somebody needs to put a bullet in Seckback. Instead, the Garcia camp puts the battery in his back, and allows the little turd in.

 

Pretty much the same for me.

 

Same here, I don't get it at all. He's never seemed dislikeable to me. All things considered, calling someone a "Mexican Bastard" isn't that bad.

 

So what though? ::

That's not that bad to me either. It's not particularly racist, it's just a silly nickname that highlights Pacquiao doing very well against Mexicans. It's true, Pacquiao is kind of built to demolish Mexicans, and you know me - I generally love Mexican fighters. I don't take stuff like that seriously.

 

roger mayweather should have beat roach's ass for stealing his nickname and giving it to pacquiao

 

In the Heat of the Moment, You're TRYING to Make the Situation Racial, by Going There...

REED's Been on BOTH Sides of that Coin, w/Various Races & Every Single Time, the 1 that Says it (REED or Otherwise) is TRYING to Stir the Pot Racially...You Could just as Easily Call the Dude a "Bastard" or "Motherfucker" & Move On...But Prefacing that Remark w/the RACE of your Target is an Undeniable DICK Move & TOES Racial Lines...

As if Being a MEXICAN Motherfucker is Worse that Just Being a Motherfucker...



REED::

 

Sure, but ultimately he was just being lairy and trying to get under the guy's skin. It just doesn't make him a detestable scumbag to me.

Now Plasterito, there's a real scumbag that's actually worthy of hate.

 

You're NOT Mexican Though, Bro, Despite your Username::...If Something Doesn't Offend YOU Personally, that Doesn't Mean it ISN'T Offensive...If a Fighter Called Himself the "African American Assassin", REED & Many Others Would have a HUGE Problem w/It...

Ask a Mexican How they Feel about "Mexican Assassin" & Being SINGLED OUT in Such a Way...In Dallas Boxing Circles, Mexicans HATED Pacquiao Back in his 122-126 Days, PRIMARILY Because of the Nickname, but Also Because he was ASSASSINATING Mexican Fighters, Figuratively...

When You Single Out a Particular Race of People, in a Negative Way, that's RACIST...





REED:hammert:

 

Not before he beats Kobe's ass for stealing Black Mamba.

 

Nah, Roach was Trying to Get Under Team Rios' Skin by Invading their Training Area DEMANDING they Leave...Nevermind that EVERY Big Fight Public Workout Starts LATE & Pacquiao was NOWHERE to Be Seen...It's NOT like Team Pacquiao was Ready to Workout Right Then, yet Roach was Being a Dick Anyways...

THEN, When Team Rios Stood their Ground, Roach Got Racial...If You Fail to See just How SHITTY that Entire Episode was, on Roach's Part, there's Really Not Much Else to Discuss...




REED:hammert:

 

I don't have a problem with Hunter. Like REED said he built Ward from scratch. Hunter has the potential to become another Manny Steward...he knows his shit and how he built Ward could equal how Manny built Tommy then had guys flocking to him for improvements.

I can't recall Hunter talking shit like Roach or Garcia. He's measured, blunt and straight forward but not a prick.

 

I'm not saying Roach did nothing wrong at all, or is a saint, all I am saying is nothing he did was that bad. He obviously didn't like that lot, they were still there when it was his time to train, so he talked some shit. Nothing that makes him a detestable scumbag to me.

Tyson has said far worse things about white people, of which I am one, but I don't care or hold it against him, he was just talking shit. I feel the same way about Roach.

 

Aren't ethnic rivalries a pretty normal feature of American boxing gyms? Roach's gym has every flag up on the wall, he's wearing Emerald green allot. I don't know if its that big a deal. Its not like he called him a racial slur.

 

Ethnic Pride is VERY Prevalent in American Boxing Gyms, but Not to the Point of Rivalries...Especially if Guys are Sparring Partners &/or Train @ Similar Times, an Almost BROTHERLY Bond Will Form, Regardless of their Ethnicity...

Sure, You'll JOKE w/Each Other Along Racial Lines, but You'll Also LEARN About that Guy's Ethnicity, w/Out Even Trying To or Realizing You Have...

REED's Frequented Gyms where the Lone Middle Eastern Guy was Called (AND ANSWERED To the Nickname) "Ali Baba"::...Motherfucker Could FIGHT Though & if You Weren't COOL Enough w/Him to Joke Around Racially, You DIDN'T Dare...

These Days, a Dude Could Be Chinese, Japanese or Any NON Filipino Nationality, yet he'll Likely Be Called "Pacquiao" in Some American Gyms...If You're a Brother in a Predominantly NON-Black Gym, You Might Be Anointed w/the Nickname of Whatever BLECK Fighter You Resemble, Physically or Stylistically...

Roach KNOWS Better...That's Why he Didn't Slur Team Rios...That Doesn't Mean He HASN'T or WOULDN'T Slur a Different Race, in a Less Private Setting Though...& Even That WOULDN'T Make Roach the Worst Human Being Ever (or Even a Racist), but it WOULD Make him a Dick...




REED:hammert:

 

BULLSHIT...

REED's MET Roach & Had a Few Very Brief Convo's w/Him...He's COOL On the Surface, in Small Snippets...But You Can Tell, & We've SEEN, that There's MORE To Him than Meets the Eye...




REED:hammert: