JMM vs. Kostya Tszyu at 140

Discussion in 'Mythical Matchups' started by Anthony, Jun 22, 2014.

  1. Anthony

    Anthony Admin Staff Member

    Add Pernell to that list.
     
  2. loadedgloves

    loadedgloves "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Whitaker already schooled him, but yeah, he probably would've schooled him even more comprehensively at the lower weights
     
  3. loadedgloves

    loadedgloves "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    (Also, I was just listing contemporary fighters - Duran would've eaten Chavez's soul at 135)
     
  4. loadedgloves

    loadedgloves "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    re: Donaire vs Marquez, has Marquez ever been thoroughly befuddled & looked lost against another fighter the way Donaire did against Rigondeaux? The only time Marquez has looked like that was when he came in flabby against a significantly bigger Floyd Mayweather Jr in his prime (and Floyd is obviously the gratest of are tims)
     
  5. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

    Marquez has never fought anyone who can box like Rigo

    ever

    not even close

    he would have been made to look a useless fool by Whitaker, for example
     
  6. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

    Chavez would have pounded the dogshit out of Marquez... that's as easy a matchup to envision as there is... JMM would get pushed back and beat down
     
  7. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    Yeah, Floyd really tarred and feathered Castillo....... I'm sure he'd do the same to Chavez........
     
  8. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

    seriously, this shit is preposterous

    these guys talk about Chavez like he's JESUS CHAVEZ
     
  9. Anthony

    Anthony Admin Staff Member

    bullshit. We listed some fucking awesome fighters who we said could beat him. It's not like we are saying bums would beat him.
     
  10. mexican wedding shirt

    mexican wedding shirt The Greatest of Are Times

    Exactly. We're saying the best fighters of this generation would beat him. Hardly makes him Jesus Chavez.
     
  11. Jesus of montreal

    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    I think that Chavez would have beaten Marquez in a close fight, lost to mayweather in a close fight, but he would catch a terrible beating against Pac.
     
  12. ILLUMINATI

    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

    Fuck is wrong with you fuckers.....Mayweather, Pacquiao Marquez???? The only one who would have a chance vs. Chavez...is Maywether...

    Marquez gets brutalize....Pacquiao gets brutalize...Mayweahter is smart enough and has the skills to beat Chavez...but it won't be easy....
     
  13. mexican wedding shirt

    mexican wedding shirt The Greatest of Are Times

    Are you nuts? Pacquiao gets brutalized? :lol:

    Chavez has the exact style Pacquiao feasts on. He'd have a field day on Chavez, it would be 1 sided.
     
  14. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

    Lmao I think X and ILLU and I are the only dudes who have seen Chavez fight
     
  15. mexican wedding shirt

    mexican wedding shirt The Greatest of Are Times

    Do you think Chavez would beat Pacquiao?
     
  16. Jesus of montreal

    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    I like Chavez style much more than Pacquiao, but it's clear that Pacman is a greater fighter, and he has the style to obliterates chavez.
     
  17. Anthony

    Anthony Admin Staff Member

    lol @ chavez beating pac.
     
  18. Dog Jones

    Dog Jones WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Marquez would have an extremely difficult time against "Best Cry Ever", never mind Kostya Tszyu
     
  19. Neil

    Neil tueur de grenouilles

    at 135 lbs chavez gives pacquaio a BEATING
     
  20. mexican wedding shirt

    mexican wedding shirt The Greatest of Are Times

    Cambodian please. He has the exact style Pacquiao shines against. He'd strafe the shit out of Chavez, and land at will. Chavez wouldn't be able to do anything with Pacquiao, who has the perfect style to thrash him.
     
  21. Anthony

    Anthony Admin Staff Member

    Pac's foot movement would drive Chavez crazy.
     
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    It really would. He'd plod around getting fucking battered by Pacquiao's fast, accurate, unpredictable punches. He'd take an absolute beating.
     
  23. Anthony

    Anthony Admin Staff Member

    At 135, pac would punch chavez 3 times and be out of the way before Chavez knew what hit him. Chavez didn't do well with movers.
     
  24. whiskey

    whiskey Czarcasm

    What? Chavez was excellent at cutting off the ring. Pacquiao certainly can (and does) have excellent foot speed but he wouldn't utilize a stick and move approach anyway. That's just not him. Julio would find Manny and vice versa.

    I can make arguments for either man winning but this would not be a one sided fight in either direction. In fact it would be a classic.
     
  25. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    Neil is correct. The Chavez of the Rosario fight fucks Manny up at 135.

    140 is a tougher call.

    OBVIOUSLY Manny wins at 147.
     
  26. mexican wedding shirt

    mexican wedding shirt The Greatest of Are Times

    I think you guys are forgetting that Manny literally eats pressure fighters alive. It's the style he does best against.

    Chavez isn't beating Manny at any weight. Chavez might be a good example of a pressure fighter, but he's still a typical pressure fighter. Pacquiao would brutalize him.
     
  27. whiskey

    whiskey Czarcasm

    Manny fights better now going backwards as he's matured, and adapted to fighting bigger guys. Although he's always been faster than his opponents it's magnified against bigger opponents. Lets take a look at his younger and lighter days. When he fought Morales he was forced to go in reverse. Manny fought admirably, but still lost clearly.

    El Terrible fought the fight Manny wanted and still won. It's not just that Chavez is better than Morales, it's that you're putting him into a category of "Mexican pressure fighter" like he was a smaller version of Margarito.
     
  28. Anthony

    Anthony Admin Staff Member

    You cant compare a green manny to one in his prime. Look what manny did to Morales the two fights after. Look at what he did to Barrera.
     
  29. Neil

    Neil tueur de grenouilles

    Pre power pellet pacquiao gets thrashed by Julio chavez
     
  30. ILLUMINATI

    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran


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