Mayweather Maidana II

Easy fight for PBF. The 1st wasn't close. The 2nd will be even less-so.

 

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Mayweather wins the rematch. Maidana has the punchers chance but that is all. He must find a way to land his punches.

 

worrrd :bears:

 

:scratcher: but he already did win... and with plenty of room to spare

 

Since when did he win with plenty of room to spare? Many thought he lost (reason for the rematch). And everyone's whose head isn't up PBF'S ass agrees it was a close fight. But you're right. "He totally out boxed him and if he'd wanted to he could've stopped him at any time if he'd thrown more punches."

At any rate, it was a fucking joke! He's not going to do a winner take all when the purse split is already 90/10.

 

Tarver was annoying and he was lucky to get a rematch. Jones fairly won. Being generous to Tarver, you could argue a draw.

I would say Tarver choked it away, but I also want to give credit to Roy for his bodywork which probably made Tarver extra cautious.

Whatever the case, as you said, Roy's ego/pride and insistence on a more decisive victory backfired on him

 

Sure, people who don't know how to score a boxing match

He won 8 rounds at least... it was a clear-cut win

I'd like him to lose as much as anybody, because he is so unlikable, but I'm not going to pretend he was anywhere close to losing that fight just because I wish he was... He won it as clear as day

Again, with that last bit... We've been down this road... I have never said anything like "if he wanted to, he could have blahblahblahblah"

 

If he won 8 rounds clearly there would be no rematch. You obviously can't keep your head out of PBF's ass long enough to properly score his fights.

 

REED Would have to Go Back Actually SCORE the Bout, but 8 Rounds for Floyd DOES Seem a Bit MUCH...

REED Seems to Recall Maidana Winning 3 of the 1st 4 Rounds, So Right There, Floyd Would've Had to DOMINATE the Remainder of the Bout, to Win 8 Rounds, Which he DIDN'T...

Maybe a Round by Round Debate is in Order???...Or a DANCEOFF, @ the Very Least...





REED:elmo:

 

That's got to hurt the UFC fanboys on here.

 

Says who? As long as guys like you are out there who think throwing haymakers at a guy's elbows constitutes effective aggression, the perception of a "close" fight will be palpable enough to make a rematch a viable business decision...

You need to use your brain so that you can understand that there aren't two sole points of view (i.e. "Maidana nearly won and he would have with his preferred gloves fafafafafafafa" vs. "OMG Money May iz teh greatest of are times... Cash Money... Holla... He won 12-0 and KO Ray Leonard") ... Some of us are just boxing fans and score the fights without wishful thinking one way or the other

Pull up the thread from that bout and I think you'll see most people had it 8-4 or even 9-3... Probably a handful of 7-5s and maybe an out to lunch 10-2 or something... I don't recall anyone having Maidana as the winner, anyone that isn't noted for being wrong all the time anyway... I don't even recall any draw calls... The fight was won by Floyd Mayweather and there is simply no objective argument to be made for a draw or (Gasp) a Maidana victory

 

Peep the original thread, man... most people had it 8-4

No way in hell Maidana took 3 out of 4 to start the fight... not a chance

 

I would like to see Floyd get dropped hard to see how he reacts. We all have seen him hurt before but never dropped. At least I cant recall.

 

He was sort of knocked down by Judah, touched the canvas, but it wasn't called.

But no I've never seen him properly knocked down.

 

I really can't see that happening here though REED, because on top of everything else, Floyd seems to have a very solid chin. As per my previous post, we're talking about a guy that has never even been properly knocked down. Sure he has great defense, but he still takes the odd one clean, or even flush.

And Maidana isn't a real puncher either, he has that accumulative, clubbing sort of power - he's not a 1 punch guy.

 

I rewatched this fight yesterday and still had it 116-112 Mayweather, same as I had watching it the night it happened

Unless you score bull rushes without landed punches and punches to a guy's arms and elbows, there's just no way you can score this fight for Maidana

 

Yeah, Zab Made Floyd's Glove Touch the Canvas & Sugar Shane Made his Knees Dip...

Chop Chop Corley HURT Floyd More than Anybody Else, in REED's Opinion...Clocked Floyd w/a COUNTER, Which Made Floyd Fall DRUNKENLY Back into the Ropes....Had Floyd Been a Foot or So CLOSER to Ring Center, he WOULD have Fallen On his Ass in that Instance...

Nonetheless, Floyd RESPONDED like a Warrior, BRINGING the Fight to Corley, the Remainder of the Bout, just as he Did vs. Zab & Sugar Shane...




REED:hammert:

 

The right hand Mosley landed on Mayweather would have ko'd allot of welterweights imo. Floyd proved he has a decent set of whiskers in that fight.

 

Yeah that sounds about right, he looked pretty hurt Vs Corley. I think Shane might have hurt him more than Zab too, despite him touching the canvas against Zab.

"Like I said before", Floyd does have an excellent chin IMO, which is another thing that makes him hard to beat. Yeah his defense is amazing, but he's not a magician (unlike a certain little Cuban wizard), he does get hit in most fights, and takes them very well.

 

Cdogg, did pbf win the 1st round?

 

Floyd lose 4 or 5 of the first 6 rounds....

 

No he did not

 

REED just Re-Watched the 1st 6 Rounds...

Maidana WON Rounds 1, 5 & 6 Clearly...Floyd Won Round 3 Clearly...2 & 4 are Open for Hindsight Interpretation...

For Floyd to have Won 8-4, that Means Maidana Wins 1 of the Remaining 6 Rounds...

NOT!!!...

REED::

ps. REED'll Re-Watch the Final 6 Rounds in a Bit...

 

You're OVERLOOKING Maidana's Infighting, Bro...

Just in the 1st 6 Rounds REED's Rewatched, Dude Landed Quite a Few Looping Rights to the Top Of (& Sometimes BEHIND) the Head of Floyd...After Awhile, Floyd Makes a Point to CLINCH Maidana's Right Arm & Marcos Responds by Banging the Body Over & Over & Over & Over w/his Left...Those are SCORING Blows...

Not Only that, but in Rounds 4 & 5, Maidana's Actually Jabbing WITH Floyd & Having Some Success, in Addition to his Roughhouse Tactics...

If Fighter A is Being BULLED into the Ropes Repeatedly, KEPT Against the Ropes & Does Nathan but Bob, Weave, Complain to the Ref & Clinch, HOW Can You Score that Round for Him???...Even If Maidana Was Only Hitting Arms & Elbows (Which he WASN'T), he'd have Won the RING GENERALSHIP Aspect of that Round...




REED:hammert:

 

I agree with REED, Marcos was doing a shit load of work inside and a lot of them were scoring shots. It may not have been pretty, but it was very effective against Floyd.

 

In regards to Floyd, I think cdogg and others might have a bit of what he feels others have towards Zidane.

Floyd looks so damn good in the ring, so skillful, clever, elegant etc, that you can get the impression he's getting the better than his opponent even in a round he loses, where he's been outworked etc. His opponents look kind of scrubby compared to him, even if they land more punches, basically.

Both the Cotto and Maidana fights were legimitately close.

 

I'm interested in punches landed... Mayweather landed more of them... He absolutely win the fight ... There's no argument for a draw or a Maidana victory... I stand by it ... Punches to the arms and gloves don't count ... That kind of erroneous scoring gave Paulie Ayala a successful pro career

 

Cotto won 4 rounds at most... 8-4 isn't close ... People expect Mayweather to 12-0 these guys and when he loses some rounds, the effect is magnified and suddenly it's a CLOSE fight... The rhetoric around Cotto was that he was used up... He wound up doing better than expected and suddenly it's a "legitimately close" fight... Maidana was picked to be cannon fodder by many... He did okay and now the fight has been reimagined as Castillo all over again... I'm not buying... The fights were reasonably competitive but they weren't close at all... Mayweather win them both by a comprehensive distance

 

Also the Zidane comparison doesn't apply here... Floyd DIDN'T look great in these fights at all