Gaybox Golovkin vs Geale

On the night of the fight the weight difference probably would be close to a welter vs a light heavy. I think Joonyuh is simply too big for Cotto. The bigger the size disparity the less skills matter. Maybe he'd lose if there was catch weight that caused him to come in emaciated, but his team wouldn't sign on for something like that anyway.

 

My general belief is a massive gulf in skill trumps even a huge size difference. That's why I pick Cotto.

Only thing is, guys like Pacquiao and Floyd are extremely fast and mobile. Cotto doesn't have as good a style against bigger guys. Decent, he is good on his feet and a good counterpuncher, but he's obviously not THAT fast and agile.

 

How Does a Battle of 2 TRUE MIDDLEWEIGHTS Look like a Welter vs. a Lightheavy???...




REED:mut:

 

Exactly. He's not going to use rapid side to side movement and he certainly aint backing Joonyuh up, so the fight is mostly going to happen in the center of the ring. He might be able to outbox Jr. early in terms of landing more and getting hit less but Cotto's shots will create little damage whereas the reverse won't be true.

 

Sad to say, but I agree junior beats Cotto

 

Gennady Golovkin stopped Daniel Geale in the 3rd round.

 

AgREED

 

:atu: chavez jr cannot make 160lbs

 

I know that... but you know what would happen, don't you?

"oh whoops, I only made 162... here's $1,000,000" and he gets the fight anyway

 

he cant make 162. not even close

 

well somehow he has been taking part in middleweight fights, no?

 

2 years ago.

 

christ, I didn't realize it's been THAT long... it feels like those fights just happened::

 

Jesus christ, same here, I can't believe it's been 2 years since he got schooled by Martinez. All he's done since is fight Brian Vera twice.

 

Yeah, I was thinking it was like a year or so

 

You haven't been following MY logic. It's not two true middlweights as the advantage to fighting "at 160" for Chavez is so manifestly grotesque {thanks to his patented diuretic programme} draws into sharp focus Cotto's patently smaller frame, less time spent at the weight, etc.

Cotto, as MW champ, must be regarded as a Middleweight. Nobody disputes that Billy Conn vs Joe Louis was for the heavyweight championship of the World.

 

FIGHTING FOR the Heavyweight Championship of the Wooooorld DID NOT Make Billy Conn a TRUE Heavyweight...

As GREAT as Conn was, & as CLOSE as he Came to DEFEATING Joe Louis, he Never EVER was a TRUE Heavyweight...

He Just WASN'T...


REED:nono:

 

But if he had beaten Joe Louis, he would have been heavyweight champ, right...and his first fight would have been...Joe Louis in a rematch....or a Fritzie Zivic Trifecta...which...:dunno:

 

How Does ANY of that Change Conn's SIZE???...




REED:scratcher:

 

Being Able to BEAT Bigger Men Doesn't MAKE You a Bigger Man...



REED:mj:

 

Weighing in at 160 makes you a middleweight whether you started at 105 pounds or 200 pounds... This is a factual statement. I have been making this factual statement from word one.

 

still that shit... ::

 

When a fighter fights in a certain weight-class, he is usually seen as a fighter of the same weight-class

 

usually yes. But there are fighters fighting outside their true weight class. :wtf1:

 

Cotto didn't weigh in at 160, he weighed in at 155. He fought as a middleweight for one fight and hasn't had another fight since, so in the most pedantic & technical definition of the term, he is a middleweight. In real and pragmatic terms, no one considers him to be an actual middleweight

 

155-160 = Middleweight division

Miguel Cotto is fighting as a middleweight

 

Captain?

 

this argument has really degenerated.

 

That's uncalled for