Bones Jones and Cormier Scrap at Media Event...

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  1. Anthony

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    You said you couldnt tell me if it's right or wrong. Im saying that if you are so fucking intoxicated, that you hit a telphone pole and have two people in the car with you, that makes you scum. Many people can drive with alcohol in the their system. But if your so fucked up that you crashed into a telephone pole, damn near knocking it down with two people in the car, i think you are scum. The pole didnt come out of no where.

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    If he killed someone, would that still be ok?
     
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    Gotta agree with GF here. I used to be pretty extreme in my early 20's, but I didn't drink and drive, that's just fucking stupid. One drink sure, like GF said, but actually pissed? No way, that's how people get killed, and that's being an irresponsible cunt.

    And yeah, seeing as he crashed into a fucking pole outside of the road, it's clear he didn't just have one drink.
     
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    i never said it was ok, if he killed someone it would be a bad mistake i never said it was ok, im saying it dont make you scum, that crash didnt look that bad to me, but hell im scum you dont want my opinion
     
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    so knowing the risk. knowing the info, over 10k people in the US were killed by drunk driver in 2012, knowing all this info and someone still decides to drive drunk and you call that a mistake? That's not a mistake man. A mistake is not breaking fast enough or thinking nobody was in your blind spot. Deciding to drive a car while be so fucking drunk you hit a telephone so hard you almost knock it over, makes you scum.
     
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    you are allowed to have your opinion, i dont think one mistake makes you scum, maybe you do.
     
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    I agree, one mistake doesnt make you scum. I dont consider that a mistake. It was reckless and irresponsible.
     
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    Claiming to Be Christian, or ANY Religion for that Matter, IS NOT a Proclamation of Being PURE, INNOCENT &/or INCAPABLE of Sin, Dude...

    So Because Jon Jones Says he's a "Christian", Anything LESS than Perfect is "Fake" on his Behalf???...




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    you sound a little like a stiff
     
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    he just turned 27 last month, how old was he when he did this? hes a kid
     
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    nobody mentioned perfect. Again, when you claim to be a Christian and Live the martial Artist way, and then go around and trying to hide the fact you are anything but, to me, is FAKE. my opinion dude.
     
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    And you want it both ways. You want to call something a mistake in one sentence and then claim everyone does it all the time and you continue to do it.
     
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    No he isnt responsible. Cool.
     
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    Jon Jones beats people into a bloody mess and/or chokes them unconscious for a living.

    He isn't trying to fool anyone into nominating him for sainthood.
     
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    sainthood, being perfect. Again, nobody mentioned perfect.
     
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    Dude you're completely obtuse.

    MassaCure wasn't absolving Jones of responsibility. He was making a point that 24 or 25 year olds are more likely to exercise bad judgement.
     
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    And by the way, what the fuck is the "martial arts" way?

    LMAO. Again, Jones gets paid to physically inflict punishment on other human beings for sport and entertainment. It's probably the most Un-Christian legal job in the world.
     
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    He isnt just saying 24 or 25 years olds do it tho. He is saying everyone does. That today so many people will do it and because of that, it's no big deal.
    He couldn't even tell me if it was right or wrong.

    Maybe you can answer the question.

    You cant sit there and have it both ways. You cant sit there and call it a mistake and then justify the mistake by saying everyone does it.
     
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    Martial Artist way is about respect for life, your body, family and body. And fighting competitively is not unchristian. Jones clearly has no respect for anyone but himself.
     
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    Actually you can have it both ways. It was a mistake.Everyone makes mistakes.
     
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    Not over and over again. The fact that he claims Most people drive drunk and me thinking that said person is scum is extreme, befuddles me. But hey, if you agree, good on you. Honestly, if you drive drunk today, knowing full well the risk, it's not a mistake. Jones is lucky he didnt kill somebody.
     
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    Over and over again? Jones did it more than once?

    And knowing the risk of driving drunk doesn't change the fact that it is still a mistake. An error in judgement is kind of the definition of "mistake".

    The real debate here is you're labeling anyone that has driven after drinking as "scum". MassCure disagrees that a single mistake like that automatically makes a person scum.

    It's almost like saying that Jones is great person because of the single act of chasing down a robber.

    To me, both are idiotic and simplistic judgements.
     
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    Except Mass brought up that most people do it. Again, knowing the risk of driving drunk and still doing it, makes you scum. Sorry, it's my opinion. Had jones killed a child and was sitting in Jail right now, you would agree he was scrum. The fact he didnt kill someone was luck.
     
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    How fucking naive.

    Jon Jones is a professional mixed martial artist that has to hurt people to make a living.

    There is nothing spiritual, Zen-like or respectful about it.

    It's almost like slamming Ronda Rousey not honoring the "martial artist" way for refusing to shake Meisha Tate's hand after beating her.

    It's just naive and ridiculous.
     
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    Wait. You ignored the question. You said "over and over" again. Did Jones do it more than once?

    And, regardless if anyone was killed or not doesn't change the fact that it was a single act and a mistake.

    Speeding is irresponsible and against the law. Have you ever exceeded the posted speed limit? Are you scum? Would that change if you killed someone while speeding?
     
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    Who knows if Jones has done it more than once. People that drive drunk usually dont just do it once. that being said, the discussion went further than Jones. The discussion went from Jones to every day people. The discussion went to everyone does it. My point from the beginning was that if you are so drunk that you actually crashed into a fucking telephone pole with two women inside, you are scrum.
     
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    You can spiritual and be a warrior. David was a warrior and was a Christian. There is nothing in the bible about not being allowed to fight for sport.
    being zen also has nothing to do with being a christian or being a martial artist.

    Ronda Rousey also doesnt walk around talking about living the martial Artist life.
     
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    Sober people crash into shit all the time. Hitting a telephone pole doesn't indicate a certain level of intoxication.

    What a silly fucking notion.
     
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    lol oh God.

    And yet, if If he wasnt drunk, he wouldnt have been arrested and fined.

    If someone kills someone with a car driving, and they arent drunk, the likelyhood they go to jail is slim.

    If someone kills someone with a car driving drunk, they will be in prison for a while.

    Yet it's fucking silly to attribute his crash to being drunk. Keep justifying it asshole.
     
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    Well, you probably know more about Christianity than me.

    So based on that higher level of knowledge, do you think Christ would condone bludgeoning another person with your elbow until they're a bloody mess simply for sport?

    LMAO. Again, I'm not a biblical expert nor do I live the Martial artist way, so I'll have to defer to your expertise.
     

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