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  1. Anthony

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    that is what i think he is doing too.
     
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    If Chalmers had not played like shit in the limited opportunities he got then maybe his confidence had not been so bad. It's easier to admit that they were outplayed and that he played like shit.
     
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    What's WORSE is, Chalmers Insinuates Bron STUNTED his Growth, When Bron is 1 of THE More UNSELFISH Superstars to have Ever Played the Game...Motherfucker Acts like he Played w/Melo or Kobe...
     
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    he definately stunted his growth, lebron controls the ball, chalmers is a pg, all he got to do is stand in a corner, bron hurts bosh too. but it is what it is he is the better player so hes gonna dominate the ball, you aint got to shoot alot to dominate the ball, bron picks where you shoot and when.
     
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    While i agree with most of what you said, i think Chalmers is a better player after playing with Lebron.
     
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    chalmers is a solid defender and has made big shots in the NBA playoffs as well as the NCAA tournament. but he has never really been a guy able to create for teammates. i dont see him suddenly breaking out and having much better numbers now james is gone.
     
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    Chalmers was one of the reasons they lost as bad as they did. An INJURED Tony Parker out played him.
     
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    This. I'm afraid we may have already seen Chalmers at his best. His ceiling wasn't too high anyway.
     
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    THIS...There's NON-Starting NBA PG's that are as Good or BETTER than Chalmers...He's NOT a High Assist Guy, CAN'T Penetrate the Lane...He's @ his Best DEFENDING Other PG's & Shooting Wade Open Jumpers CREATED by Guys like Bron...
     
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    Nah, LeBron James Makes Teammates BETTER, Not Worse...Kyrie Irving will have NO Problems Playing w/Bron, Watch & See...
     
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    Yep...He's a ROLE PLAYER...Derek Fisher, Steve Kerr, John Paxson...THAT's Chalmers Realm...
     
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    It is hard to say he makes every player better, every player has a different game, I believe that is a cliché. IMO not a huge difference between playing with Lebron than Kobe besides he lets you shoot. He still dictates everything on the offense end. Maybe saying he hurt Chalmers is too much, but time will tell. If you consider players like Mike James and Mo Williams, made their name playing on sorry squads where they had to do more, move them to a squad where there is less responsibility all the sudden people assume they lost abilities( Mo Williams better without Lebron), same with Chris Bosh, big difference from being the focal point of the offense where the plays are ran for you, and being some spot of player where you have to just shoot when it is given, they never rerun a play for you, the offense is structured based on how you can get the most production out of Lebron, you have to make sacrifice in order to win. You think if Jamal Crawford played with Lebron he could make him better? No, nor does chris paul Jamal needs the ball in his hands to be effective that’s why he plays when chris sits, only in the 4[SUP]th[/SUP] they play together.

    If you never have to create a shot for yourself it is sometimes difficult to grown, Chalmers was young in his career. When Jordan left Grant, Pippen, and BJ had their best years. I actually don’t know about Grant, but Pippen and BJ for sure.

    I saw Kyrie and Lebron in the all star game and thought they played really well together, Kyrie is 10 times the player as Chalmers.

    My arguement might not be relevant to chalmers, because at the end of the day you work on your game in practice, but Bosh definately made some sacrafice as well as others. every players that plays on his team isnt automatically gonna raise their game, everyones game isnt structured to being a compliment to Lebrons
     
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    "Making Teammates Better" IS a Cliché, but NOT in the Case of a Player like Bron...Bron Can Create, Score or Defend from ANYWHERE on the Floor...There was Plenty of Times when Bron DIDN'T Initiate the Heat's Offense...Plenty of Times where he'd Be on the Wing or Even in the Post...Bosh Has HIMSELF to Blame...Defensively, the Heat have to Put Bron on a Guy like David West (for Example), Because Bosh is Tooooo SOFT to Defend that Position...So Bron Picked Up Bosh's Defensive Slack, FREEING Bosh Up to Do Other Shit...That's Called "Making Bosh BETTER", Dog....UNLIKE Players Such as Kobe or Melo, Bron DOESN'T Care about Touches, Shots or Points...It Wouldn't Surprise REED @ All if Bron was Cleveland's 3rd Leading Scorer, this Coming Season...
     
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    IMO it is just a different form of Ball Hogging, Rondo can’t score for shit, but feels he needs to dictate every play. When he rarely gets hot he is gunning it up, We both know Lebron will lead his team in scoring, it is not him being unselfish, its him wanting to be some kinda stat whore and get all the assist and shit too, points aint enough. They said the same shit when he went to Miami, about Bosh and Wade scoring more, and we saw what happen. Don’t let his image he is pushing fool you. True we don’t see Lebron forcing bad shots, but his ass is touching that ball every time down court. He is utilizing his best skill set, If Melo tried to play that game he would be a turn over machine. This bullshit image about him being some perfect teammate is BS, the best of the superstars possibly, but dude will leave you cold and dry when your knee aint quite where it used to be. Lebron plays like everyone else for personal accolades.

    Ok seems im going off topic, this was about him making players better, I would have to agree he does, Lebron is my favorite player in the NBA right now, well second to Amare, if he still counts
     
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    chris paul is guilty of the same. guy dribbles the air out of the ball sometimes.
     
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    Of course, but Lebron handling the ball a lot has led to finals appearances and championships, Chalmers handling the ball more would've resulted in an early playoffs exit. How many titles BJ, Pippen and Grant won AFTER MJ left? Grant won only one, and with a stacked team. Their individual stats didn't led to anything so MJ "hogging" the ball was justified.
     
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    REED Doesn't See it like that @ All, Mass...If REED Isn't Mistaken, DWade was the Heat's Leading Scorer, During Bron's 1st Season There...Bron has INTENTIONALLY Sat Out the Last Game of the Season, when he COULD Have Possibly Won a Scoring Title...REED Can Think of @ Least 20 Times were Bron Came OUT of the Game for Good, Needing just 1 or 2 Rebounds or Assists to Get a Triple Double...Despite his Stats, Bron ISN'T a Stat Guy...He Doesn't Want to HAVE to Put Up 30+ Every Playoff Game, for his Team to Advance...REED Would Bet Almost Anything Kyrie Irving will LEAD the Cavs in Scoring this Season...
    And NO, Amare DOESN'T Count Anymore:lol:...
     
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    I agree, I believe lebron shouldn't change shit either, but bulls almoust went to the finals the year without jordan called a soft foul on pippen on a three, hubert davis?
     
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    That was in the semis, they didn't played the ECF. Pippen was great but he didn't had it in him to take the Bulls to the finals. Remember the Kukoc incident during the Knicks series? There's your proof.
     
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    I agree with you no jordan no win no lebron no win, my dispute was on making the player better not the team
     
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    you think pippen should have went along with being the decoy?
     
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    THE Worst Thing that Could've Happened for Pippen, in THAT Situation, was Kukoc MAKING the Shot...Which he DID...Scottie was Caught Up Trying to BE Michael Jordan, in that Moment...He was on Some ALPHA Male Shit...Plus, there was Still ENVY about How Heavily the Bulls Front Office PURSUED Kukoc...@ the End of the Day, Scottie Pippen was Faaaaaaaaaaaaar & Away a BETTER Player than Kukoc EVER Was, but he was Still WRONG for Refusing to Go In that Game, 1nce he Knew the Last Shot WASN'T Coming his Way...
     
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    anyone got any theories on lebrons hairline?
     
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    Black Magic or Some Actual Hair GROWTH Shit...It was Time for Bron to do Something; Find a REMEDY or Go BALD...

    REED's been Forcibly Bald Since he was 21...Some Cats EMBRACE It, Others Address it...



    REED
     
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    you might have a normal head reed, I got a lebron sized head and im scared for my life of going bald
     

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