The 2015-16 World Fitba Thread!

Chelski hired Sir Bobby's translator as their manager. By osmosis, he wins some games. Useless cunts paid loads of cash haven't had the privilege of being affiliated with the mighty Newcastle United.

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I hate the guy (peep the clogg thread in which Saucy Slice asked me to rate him) but he's done a bit more than just "win some games"::

 

He's won some games. Given a squillion quid, he failed.

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He's won two CL titles without it, though, man

 

Yep. I fucking despise the cunt, but he's an excellent coach. It's not the stuff he's done or doing with Real or Chelshit which has impressed me.

 

He was given a lottery win and failed. He's back for a second go.

SBR>his translator.

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Exactly

I hate the guy, I hate his football... It's boring, lifeless shite... But he's won the biggest prize in European football twice, both times with clubs that while big, certainly weren't zillionaire enterprises... He's obviously not just hanging around riding the money... The fact that Chelshit generally performs better in this particular competition than their equally loaded cohorts at Shitty doesn't exactly strike me as knock against the guy

 

A billion quid finally get the best of ten reserves. Best league in the world.

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3-2 Oilchester

 

If he hadn't done anything else, I could see being this dismissive of him. He has, and I can't.

 

His Chelshit side dominated English football for three years. In Europe, he failed. I respect what he did elsewhere, but with a lottery win, he showed what he was really about.

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Precisely. I hate the fact I'm sticking up for him, wtf am I doing? ::

 

He has won as many European cups as Brian Clough. Clough won his at Forest. Give Clough a squillion quid and he wins ten titles.

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I would think doing what he did elsewhere would show what he was really about, personally

 

He won a title at Porto and at Inter. Both are bigger clubs that Chelshit have ever been and will ever been.

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So the default is Brian fucking Clough??? If you aren't as good as Clough, you're shit? That's ridiculous. Bobby Robson is surely not in Clough's class, either... How many guys are?? 2? 3?

 

not financially

 

Di Matteo won more European cups at Chelshit than the special one did.

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This. Feebs knows this though and is trolling a bit methinks ::

 

Give Robson a squliion quid and he wins ten titles. Give Ferguson a squillion quid and he wins ten titles.

Jose is overrated. He's not shit. He's just very overrated.

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Those clubs are bigger than Chelshit. By any measure.

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...except financially

 

How many did he win everywhere else?

I don't get this... you're ripping the guy for not winning a European Cup at Chelshit essentially because it ought to be easy to do it, thanks to the finances ... On the other hand, you're basically saying the two European Cups with two different clubs, neither of whom could handle 1/3 of Chelshit's payroll, are basically irrelevant

I think you are thinking with your heart, my good man, because Mourinho is such a proper shithead and he manages one of the world's most despicable clubs

If Brian Clough had succeeded at Leeds, would he have been tainted by their awful reputation?

 

yeah except for that whole billions of dollars thing

 

I don't know, Ferguson had a dominant market position for many years and he didn't clean up in Europe.

 

And the trophies won, thing.

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He didn't have a squillion quid, though and in the end he walked into the best club side ever assembled.

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Imagine if Mourinho never managed Chelski... Say he was at Roma or some club like that and getting them to CL semi-finals year after year after he had already won his two European Cups... Can you imagine someone, dismissive of whomever was managing Chelski, saying "pfft... if Mourinho had that money, he'd win 10 European Cups!" ?

 

I could win trophies with a squillion quid. So could you. It's championship manager football.

The point is that Jose won the jackpot and failed. Pellegrini has a jackpot win and he's failing. Guys like Clough, Paisley, Michels - proper managers who built sides with what they had. Different class IMO.

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Yes but he had what could be seen as the equivalent at the time, and they flopped in Europe on a regular basis