If A Guy Fights And Beats Wladimir Klitschko..............

Discussion in 'General Boxing Discussion' started by Irish, Dec 23, 2014.

  1. Irish

    Irish Yuge, Beautiful

    .....................where would he rank in the pfp lists and would he be regarded as a Great Fighter????
     
  2. Jimmy

    Jimmy The Greatest of Are Times

    Well, let's take Wilder as an example. We know he can bang and Wlad has a dodgy chin, so it's possible Wilder could KO him but Wilder is no great fighter. Wilder wouldn't be able to hang with the greats of years gone by.
     
  3. Irish

    Irish Yuge, Beautiful

    But...he'd be beating a guy on a 10 year unbeaten streak. To be a great HW all you need is a big right hand and some size. It's all Max Baer had.
     
  4. Panchyprsss

    Panchyprsss Clogg's LORD PROTECTOR

    Was Buster Douglas considered a great fighter when he beat Tyson? :dunno:
     
  5. Jimmy

    Jimmy The Greatest of Are Times

    No, but he produced a great performance to beat him.
     
  6. Buddy Rydell

    Buddy Rydell Boxingpress Alumnus

    Max Baer was not a great HW.
     
  7. Irish

    Irish Yuge, Beautiful

    So did Joe Louis beat only bums............:dunno:
     
  8. Irish

    Irish Yuge, Beautiful

    Unless Mike lost to a scrub.
     
  9. Jimmy

    Jimmy The Greatest of Are Times

    Douglas was no scrub...he displayed skill and talent on the night he beat Tyson.
     
  10. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

    wald pussy have losses
     
  11. Buddy Rydell

    Buddy Rydell Boxingpress Alumnus

    I didn't say Baer was a bum, but he wasn't a great heavyweight. He was good, a very heavy puncher, and a one-time heavyweight champion who never got over what happened to Frankie Campbell. He battered one of the worst heavyweight champions in history to win the title and then lost by failing to train properly. Baer was squandered potential, having been turned away from the army due to what were considered freakish measurements. He had the potential to be great, but he never actualized it.
     
  12. Irish

    Irish Yuge, Beautiful


    Who doesn't......apart from Floyd "Cherry Picker" Mayweather and Rocky "Golden Age" Marciano.
     
  13. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

    I can name a few that don't have them to the likes of Purrity, Sanders and Brewster
     
  14. Jimmy

    Jimmy The Greatest of Are Times

    What if a guy is losing a fight to Wlad then lands a fight ending, lucky shot? Would we class that guy as "great" or just "lucky"?
     
  15. Muzse

    Muzse "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Joe "I'm gonna fight them when they're old" Calzaghe and Sven "Out of sight out of mind" Ottke.
     
  16. Muzse

    Muzse "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Yimmy, he's lucky to be great.
     
  17. Anthony

    Anthony Admin Staff Member

    The wlad today would destroy those guys.
     
  18. Jimmy

    Jimmy The Greatest of Are Times

    Yeah, Wlad is lucky. Such poor opposition he's faced overall.
     
  19. Irish

    Irish Yuge, Beautiful

    Has there ever been a guy with a 10 year winning streak whose losses were remembered so fondly, and for whom, any potential loss would bestow no greatness on his victor :dunno:
     
  20. Muzse

    Muzse "Twinkle Toes" McJack


    Dan Gable?
     
  21. Slice N Dice

    Slice N Dice Big stiff idiot

    I don't like Wlad but I think any fighter from the new generation who wants to be considered great has to beat him. It really annoys me when up and coming heavyweights talk about Wlad having "a few years left" or "waiting till he vacates the throne", it's fucking bullshit.
     
  22. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

    he might hug them, perhaps
     
  23. Jimmy

    Jimmy The Greatest of Are Times

    Jesud, just imagine if Fury somehow beat Wlad :lol:
     
  24. Neil

    Neil tueur de grenouilles

    wald pussy is just a giant version of samson dutchboy
     
  25. ILLUMINATI

    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran


    NO Puritty, Sanders, the other guy whatever his name....are NOT great.....and if Wilder or any other heavyweight Ko's him tomorrow it means fuck all...just another bum ass heavyweight...
     
  26. Irish

    Irish Yuge, Beautiful

    Has there ever been a case whereby a guy was undefeated for 10 years and yet to beat him would not result in instant greatness.....or at least some greatness......:dunno:

    Word has it that Bryant Jennings is up next.

    I can picture the scene, Bryant Jennings knocks out the champ and the place remains totally calm...with Bryant returning meekly to his dressing room, musing the tedium of his day-job.

    :lol: :lol:
     
  27. Irish

    Irish Yuge, Beautiful


    Was Bomber Hurricane Strong Winds Carter a "Great"............was Joe Choynksi a great.....was Kirkland Laing a great...was Max Schemlling a great....

    Anyways this is all very distracting.

    Are we in agreement then....the next person to KO Wlad will be just a ho-hum Champ...no noise...:dunno:
     
  28. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

    The fighter's career in addition to his victory over wald pussy would determine that
     
  29. Jimmy

    Jimmy The Greatest of Are Times

    The last time I saw Jennings was against Perez in a fight that was utter pish.
     
  30. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

    Buster Douglas's career outside of the Tyson fight shows him to be a mediocre fighter

    And there's the flipside to all of this, you are forgetting... Rubin Carter stopped Emile Griffith, it's true, and Carter was basically little more than a hard-punching contender otherwise, as his career clearly illustrates... The reason nobody says "Emile Griffith was a chinny bitch" is because nobody else did it (he was stopped on his feet against Monzon) and he didn't have to adopt an overwhelmingly negative, illegal style in order to prevent it from happening again

    wald pussy was stopped by two mediocre fighters and one awful clubfighter... In order to prevent this from happening again, he has developed into one of the most unwatchable elite fighters in history aided by awful officiating and the chickenshit, lazy bums that populate his division... This is why he is disliked far more than his bigger, better brother was
     

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