NFL 2014-2015 Thread

Discussion in 'Hall of Fame/Shame' started by TFK, Sep 1, 2014.

  1. REEDsART

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    Nah, Wilson was BALLIN' Last Night...

    However, Last Week, he Most Certainly WAS a "Game Manager", Unless that 12-24, 168yds, 1TD, 1INT Performance IMPRESSED You???...


    Funny How You Had NATHAN to Say about Wilson Then, Though...


    In Seattle's 5 Game Winning Streak, they're Giving Up LESS than 7 Full Points a Game...But by All Means, Keep FOOLING Yourself into Believing Russell Wilson's the Reason they're Winning...





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    If by "Kick" You Mean "THEmotherfuckingTRUTH", then Yeah, REED's Still On It...You Should Try it, it's LIBERATING!!!...

    9th in Whatever Categories You Chose to Research DOESN'T Fuck w/Year by Year CONSISTENCY, Which Dez Bryant has in Spades...Not to Mention how you Conveniently Neglected to Point Out who Has MORE TD Receptions than ANYBODY Else in the League...OR How Dez is Teammates w/the Guy that Leads the League in Not Only Rushing Yards, but TOUCHES...


    Megatron is LOWER than 9th in the Categories you Noted, but he's Undoubtedly Still THE Best Receiver in the League...Why, Because he's IMPACTED Games Year After Year After Year After Year After Year...Not just a Handful of Games or Years...Ditto for Dez Bryant...

    This Time LAST Year, you Propped Up Josh Gordon & AJ Green...How'd THAT Work Out for You???....No Doubt You'll Pull Some New Names Out of your Ass, but Again, Dez is a CONSTANT...

    2nd Best Receiver in the NFL...Not Sure WHY That Bothers You, but it's the Gospel...

    As for what You "See", Who Gives a Fuck???...You're Still Convinced Andy Dalton's a GOOD QB & Cincy's a Viable Contender, Which is a Joke..."America's Team", YOUR Dallas Cowboys Didn't just Beat Seattle IN Seattle, they WHIPPED THEIR ASSES IN SEATTLE...

    There's A LOT Of Football Left to Be Played, so Don't Be Sooooooo Certain Seattle will Even Be There @ the End...But if they Are & "America's Team", YOUR Dallas Cowboys have to Return There to SILENCE the Fake Ass "12th Man", So Be It...


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    ps. Most People will Watch Because it's the Cowboys...Football's most IMPORTANT Team...The Yankees of the NFL...However You Wish to Word it...
     
  3. TFK

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    He has 1 more TD than Jordy Nelson, but Nelson has 8 more catches and over 200 more receiving yards.

    He has 2 more TD's than Antonio Brown, but Brown has 28 more catches and 350 more receiving yards.

    I'll take Nelson's and Brown's season over Dez's any time.



    What does that have to do with anything?




    Johnson missed several games because of injury this year. If he was healthy he'd more than likely be near the top of all WR statistics.


    This season is a Mulligan for Gordon. He was suspended most of the season and he couldn't practice with the team at all during that time, then he was put in at a time when the Browns were tanking, getting the ball thrown to him by a terrible Brian Hoyer and Johnny 'Pat White 2.0' Manziel. He'll be back at the top of his game next season, providing he can keep himself out of trouble. Green is another one who has missed multiple games with injuries, and has played hurt most of the season.

    The bottom line is, Dez is a top 5 receiver, but he's not top 2. And you would agree with me vehemently if he was wearing any other uniform other than a Cowboy uniform.


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    1. Now Look @ Brown & Nelson's CAREER Numbers...Class Dismissed...If You Even INSINUATE You'd Take Either of them Over Dez, in THAT Regard, Cease & Dismiss w/ALL Football Talk Moving Forward, Because You're Fucking CLUELESS...

    Dez Bryant is a BETTER Wide Receiver than Jordy Nelson...PERIOD...Dez Bryant has Better CAREER #'s than Antonio Brown...PERIOD...That's NOT Even Up for Debate, Homey...


    2. Uuuuuh, that's WHY Dez has FEWER Catches & Receiving Yards than Brown & Nelson...Compare LeVeon Bell & Eddie Lacy's #'s w/DeMarco Murray's???...Murray Touches the Rock SIGNIFICANTLY More & has a 500yd Gap (or Whatever it Is) Over the Next Closest RB...In Green Bay's Pass Happy Case, Randall Cobb ALSO Puts Up Good #'s, Given their System...


    Relying on Josh Gordon to Keep his Nose Clean is a Risky Proposition...Good Luck w/That...More Importantly, Dude's LITERALLY had 1 Good Season, for Fuck's Sake...Clearly, You're Incapable of GRASPING the Concept of CONSISTENCY...Dez has Been @ or OVER 10 TD's a Year for the Last 4 Consecutive Seasons...He's Been @ or WELL Over 1,000yds Receiving for the Last 4 Consecutive Seasons...


    He Mooooooooooooves the Chains, Makes the Tough, Physical Catches, he Blocks, he's a Deeeeeeeeeep Threat, he's Big, he's Athletic, he Makes Highlight Reel Catches ROUTINELY, he Has Good Hands & He's CONSISTENTLY Performed as Such, More Often than Brown or Nelson...


    This Time NEXT Year, You'll Conjure Up 2 MORE Names, but Dez Bryant will STILL Be the Constant...Which Basically MAKES REED's Point for Him...'Preciate It...





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  5. TFK

    TFK WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    So we agree. He's a Top 5 receiver, but not a Top 2.

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    Dez Bryant is THE 2nd Best Wide Receiver in the National Football League...





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  7. Neil

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  8. Neil

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    Wilson makes the Plays needed to win games. On the road against a good defense he made them repeatedly. The guy has 800+ rushing yards and will finish among the top 5 in league mvp voting
     
  9. Neil

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    I'd rank brown ahead of Bryant. Both elite though. Nelson has had a great year but greatly benefits playing with Sharon rodgers, the leagues top qb

    If u mention Gordon you may as well mention beckham jr. If healthy he is elit for years to come
     
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    Why aren't the Cowboys treating him as such? They gave Romo his money. Megatron got his money.

    Why is Jerry Jones talking about franchising him rather than putting up the cash to show Dez the respect he feels he's worth?

    Cowboys are in an interesting spot...if they franchise Bryant they have to make a long-term deal with Murray. Or they could make the deal with Bryant then franchise Murray.

    Jones might let Murray walk to sign AP on the cheap...there's no way Minnesota brings him back.
     
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  11. Neil

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    I always ask "Who would I pick if I were starting a team tomorrow and could choose any WR?"

    Today, I would only take Antonio Brown ahead of Dez. Thomas would probably be 3rd.

    The other top tier guys like Megatron, Down by the School Yard, AJ, etc are hit or miss right now.

    With AB, you can be impressed by his catches, yards or TD's but the dude also leads the league in catches for first downs.

    Now if I was a corner back that was going to be locked up in man coverage, a guy like Jordy Nelson or like Julian Edelman would make me lose the most sleep the night before the game.
     
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    He's Also Got CAREER LOWS in TD Passes & QB Rating, So DON'T Get that "MVP" Bullshit Twisted...

    The Seattle Seahawks are a DEFENSIVE TEAM, Neil...Last Year's Super Bowl was ALL about their DEFENSE...PERIOD...Their Current Winning Streak is about their DEFENSE (Giving Up FEWER than 7 Full Points a Game)...Yet for Some Reason, You PERSIST in Making their Success about Russell Wilson, when Clearly it ISN'T...

    Do You HONESTLY Think Luck, Newton, Kaepernick, a Healthy RGIII & Many Other Current QB's COULDN'T "Lead" Last Year's Seahawks to the Super Bowl???...

    To Be Clear, Russell Wilson CAN Play, but You Act like the Motherfucker is SPECIAL or Something...He ISN'T...


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    They Will...

    Jerry Jones has Made it CRYSTAL Clear Dez Bryant will REMAIN a Member of "America's Team", YOUR Dallas Cowboys...The Talk Around Town is Murray will Be Franchised, Instead of Dez...

    Adrian Peterson has VOICED his Desire to Play for the Cowboys for the Last Several Years...Please Believe, the Cowboys are FULLY Aware Murray's Always Been Injury Prone UNTIL This Season (a Contract Year)...They're Also Aware of the # of Carries he's Getting, Which Doesn't Bode Well for his Future...

    REED Fully EXPECTS Dez to Get a New Deal, Paying him just UNDER Megatron Money, Murray to Be Franchised & Peterson to Be Signed @ a Budget Rate, for the LIKELIHOOD of Murray Getting Hurt Next Season...We Could Also Possibly TRADE Murray Before Next Season Starts, for Some Draft Picks or a Quality DB...




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  15. Neil

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    Luck, yes. newton probably. the other two, i doubt it.

    wilson is a special player. Im pretty sure he'd be among the top 10 selections if the league had a draft of ALL NFL players to build a franchise around.

    now you want to bring up QB rating huh? thought it was meaningless :lol:

    the guy leads the league in yards per carry. he has 26 TDs this year, one less than last season and 4 less than his rookie year. with a game left to play. hardly a down year for the guy.


    AP an insurance policy? if he signs with dallas he will be the starting back, murray will be gone
     
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    Wilson is a top 10 QB for sure. Putting him in the same sentence as guys like Kap, Newton and RG3 is just silly.


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    Not Nearly as "Silly" (Please Find a NEW Crutch Word, by the Way) as HABITUALLY Tabbing Cincinnati as a Viable Super Bowl Contender...


    If you REALLY Believe the Niners, Panthers and Foreskins Would Be Markedly BETTER w/Wilson, than their Current QB's, You're OVERRATING Wilson as Badly as Neil Does...




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    REED Brought it Up Because it's Been YOUR "Go-To" Stat All the While...Though NOW, You Conveniently DON'T Want to Go-To It...





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  19. Neil

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    his rating is still excellent. a few points lower than his career average. his rushing yards have MORE than made up for it. the guy may end up with the most rushing yards in a season by a qB since Vick
     
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    & Where EXACTLY Do you Rank Vick in the Pantheon of QB Greats???...More Importantly, When Did Vick EVER Have a Defense that Even APPROACHES the Level of Seattle's???...







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    Vick wasnt nearly as good a passer/decision maker as Wilson. nor as smart/durable.

    if Wilson were on carolina, washington, or SF those teams would be better. carolina and SF would surely be in the playoffs. if he were on dallas they would be a bona fide super bowl contender
     
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    If that Really WERE the Case, Seattle Would Flirt w/16-0 on a YEARLY Basis...

    Put Wilson on those Other Squads & they're about the SAME, in REED's Opinion...No More than a MARGINAL Improvement (like 2 Wins, if That), @ Best...& REED's Being GENEROUS...More Probable is those Teams AREN'T Any Different...

    Wilson COULD NOT Navigate Through the Uncertainty of his Coach Leaving @ the End of the Season, LOSSES of ELITE Level Defenders like Aldon Smith & Navorro Bowman, yet KEEP the Niners IN the Playoffs...w/Wilson, they'd Be Focusing on the Off Season, like the Niner's Currently Are...

    There's Literally NATHAN Wilson Could Do w/Carolina, as No Team Flat Out CRIPPLES their OWN On Field Product to the Degree Carolina Brass Does, in REED's Opinion...Nonetheless, Cam has them 1 Win Away from Back to Back Playoff Appearances...No Way in Hell is that Team Any Better than they Currently Are, w/Wilson...

    Health & a Dumbass, Wishy Washy Coach are Hurting RGIII & the Foreskins...From Day 1, Gruden's had a PROBLEM w/Griffin...Sans Wilson, "America's Team", YOUR Dallas Cowboys ARE a Bonafied Super Bowl Contender...Wilson in Dallas WOULDN'T Work, Because he'd Tuck Ball & RUN Toooooooooo Often...

    Romo CAN Run Out of the Pocket, but he's Unquestionably a THROW 1st QB, UNLIKE Wilson...The Boys Never CALL Run Plays for Romo, Because as Currently Constructed, there's NO NEED for It...Again, Wilson WOULDN'T Even Be a Good Fit in Dallas, Nevermind an Upgrade...






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    Though UNLIKELY, "America's Team", YOUR Dallas Cowboys Still have an Outside Shot @ the Top Seed in the NFC, and Homefield Advantage Throughout the Playoffs...


    If Seattle Loses to St. Louis AND Arizona Loses to San Francisco OR if Detroit and Green Bay Tie, Dallas Finishes 1st in the Conference...Since those Games Occur AFTER the Cowboys-FOREskins Game, it Gives Us Incentive to WIN...

    Having Said That, we Need to Get Out of this Game Injury FREE, Especially in Regards to Tony Romo and DeMarco Murray...




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    Dez Bryant just doesn't stop.
     
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    Dez Bryant, THE 2nd Best Wide Receiver in the NFL, is OWNING the Secondary of the Washington FOREskins...

    3 Targets, 3 Catches, 2 TD's, 94yds Receiving, in the 1st Fucking Quarter!!!...





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    So a team who has made the playoffs 4 years in a row aren't habitual Superbowl contenders?


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    Correct...


    MAKING the Playoffs is Fine and Dandy, but when You've LOST in the 1st Round of the Playoffs, All of Those Years (Which Cincy will Undoubtedly Replicate This Season), You're Most Certainly NOT a Super Bowl Contender...




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    So then we're in agreement that Dallas, who have gone 1-7 in their last 8 playoff appearances, are not Superbowl contenders.


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