Overrated movies

The colour of money. I really didn't get that at all...... Newman was kinda awesome in it but the whole plot was crap.

Though I'd like to get Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio in it nahm sayin'.

 

panch, clog, Anthony etc what do you think about The Long Goodbye?

 

same

Cruise was Cruise as always:boring:

 

I didn't care for it, really, found it kind of boring and pretentious... I thought Elliott Gould was good, though

 

Exactly

If I want to know who the Key Grip was on "Ishtar", I go to IMDB

If I want reviews of the film, I avoid it like the plague

 

I like going to the comments section and reading threads like:

"Goodfellas is the most over-rated movie ever"

"Martin Scorsese is ugly and McG is a better Director"

"Fill in the ______ is the worst movie ever made"

 

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:giggle:

 

IMDB has regular movie viewers reviewing it too. Personally I'd rather hear what the average Joe thinks of a movie than professional critics. Also from what I've seen RT's message boards have just the same trolls/opinionated people as IMDB does. It's just a matter of preference. What I really dislike about RT is the kiddie design of it's page.

 

I actually don't even think Boyz N the Hood and Menace II Society are similar. They get compared a lot because they are always considered the two best "hood" movies of that time frame, and both take place in SC LA, but the themes and structure are different.

South Central, which came out between the two, is more similar in theme to Boyz with the main emphasis of each movie dealing with the presence/absence of fathers.

I didn't think about it much when I saw it as a kid, but Menace is like a black Scorsese movie. The Hughes brothers are big fans of him and say he was a major influence in them.

The first half hour or so is similar to Goodfellas, they start out with a brutal murder, then flashback to childhood to show how the main characters got into criminal life and were around that lifestyle. The house party scene in Menace, with a tracking shot a couple minutes long and narration, is similar to Henry in the restaurant talking about different mob people (like the two times guy). And we all know Scorsese's brilliance with tracking shots.

Then the rest of the movie is similar to Mean Streets, they are both episodic in nature, different things going on, some of them violent, to give you an idea of their lives and the unpredictably of it. Both main characters struggle somewhat with their conscience, but have lunatics for best friends. And both movies end pretty abruptly with violence.

Boyz was more 'Hollywood' in the sense that it is less grim and more characters have some hype and level-headedness in them. But I actually think you can argue that it would be more controversial with some of the messages. Furious at one point is pretty much preaching separatism in the neighborhoods, keeping "everything black" and not liking neighborhoods being integrated. I think there were even some Latinos in that group whom he was trying to preach this to.

He's also taking about deliberate attempts at genocide of black people, which I think is a big difference than the CIA selling cocaine to the inner-cities. That could be just money-motivated, so they could buy weapons, and basically the people in the ghettos were "collateral damage" in their view.

I like all the above movies a lot and don't think they are overrated though.

 

I never bothered to see parts 2 and 3.

The original was just an okay comedy to me. Nothing special IMO.

I remember pretty much nothing about this movie. Nothing was memorable. I remember Gwyneth Paltrow showing her tits, and they weren't anything special either.

This came one year after Titanic won Best Picture over L.A. Confidential and Boogie Nights (not nominated).

I love Taxi Driver but didn't see the big deal about Lost in Translation. Just an okay movie to me. The best thing about it was Scarlett Jo's body.

Sofia Coppola is an overrated director IMO.

I thought that one was overrated and kind of boring. Brilliantly shot and great cinematography, but it just dragged.

 

Harry Brown with Michael Caine. Vigilante movie with good reviews. Kind of dull and blah to me.

Foxcatcher was overrated to me.

 

Actually IMDB has regular people and pro critics as well.

 

IMDB is definitely more generous with ratings, most of the time. I'll frequently check the ratings, and it'll be somewhere in the 6-7 range, then I go to RT and it's way below 50%.

 

Then is IMDB being more generous or is RT being more demanding? How do you distinguish between the two, favoritism?

 

Average Joe rates the last Transformer film as the greatest film ever made while at the same time trashes a classic film like The Godfather as the biggest piece of shit ever put on film. These are the people that only watches like 10-12 movies per year and make their 'Best Movie of the Year' pick based on that short list. :nono:

 

That's a very small sample size to make such an enormous proclamation about.

 

Being more demanding is one of the most important criteria of good art criticism

IMDB ratings are "Wheel Of Fortune" level intelligence

RT ratings are "Jeopardy!" level

 

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Taxi driver is one of the most overrated movies ever

 

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I happen to agree with this. I know it's blasphemous, but I fail to see how Taxi Driver is a masterpiece.

 

Taxi Driver is an amazing picture

 

Out Of Africa :boring:

Apocalypse Now -- Riveting for the first 70% of the film and then just over-the-top jungle bullshit after that with that idiot Dennis Hopper

Natural Born Killers -- Completely revolting nonsense... Supposed satire of glorification of violence in the media which winds up glorifying violence and its perpetrators via the medium of film... The actors seem to be as painfully "cool" as the idiot who first wrote the story no doubt envisioned them being as he lay there masturbating this crap onto the page... Even altered by revision from other people and Stone's particular style, the cheap, comic book aesthetic of the terminally lurid Tarantino shines through

Jerry Maguire -- Why did people think this was great? Usual Tom Cruise fare with lots of discomfort in moments where you're supposed to be charmed and laughs where you are supposed to be moved (unless you're a fan and somehow find this Ken doll convincing)... Cuba Gooding Jr. was fun... The kid was cute... Still, this is a pedestrian film

American Graffiti... Guess you had to be from a suburb in the 50s... Just could not get into this