UFC holding up Anderson Silva's $6 million payday

So how much should a fighter like Anderson Silva earn for a fight?


TFK

 

Who Got 30% of the Profits?


REED

 

A BETTER Question Is, How Much Did UFC MAKE? If/When that's FULLY Disclosed, REED Could Give a Ballpark Figure of what he Thinks Silva's Worth Is...



REED

 

How do you KNOW Silva's 6mil Came from a Pool of 20mil? You keep Running Off at the Mouth, Posting Nonsensical Breakdowns of Where you THINK the PPV Money is Going..

Sorry, but Unless You're Prepared to Reveal Yourself as a UFC Employee, the Fact is You DON'T Know what the Fuck You're Talking About. Just Yesterday, you Listed " Site Fee" as Something Paid from the PPV Money, which is Joke. You Also Noted Production and Marketing Costs, as if UFC Really DOESN'T have a Production or Marketing Budget. And since REED Already DEFECATED on your Attempt at Using the Fighter Budget, There's No Reason to Revisit that...

Bottom line is, Unless you KNOW what UFC Pays Out for a PPV, you're in NO Position to Speak on what "Should" Be Enough for a Fighter of Silva's Ilk...

Business is All about SHOW not Tell...SHOW that you're Not just Talking Out of your Ass....



REED

 

No it isn't ::

 

If you don't know the answer to that, than how can you keep insisting that Silva was underpaid?


TFK

 

Uuuuuh, the Same Way YOU will Agree Silva Should've Been More than SATISFIED w/6mil, while Being 100% CLUELESS as to WHAT UFC Brought in for UFC 183, SPECIFICALLY...Your Line of Questioning Goes BOTH Ways, Dude...

If a Company has their Wallet Out, Asking "How Much Do You Want?", the SMARTEST Answer is "How Much Can You PAY?"...Let's Start THERE & REED'll Give You a CLEAR Picture of what he Thinks Anderson Silva's Worth..

Like Anthony, You have NOfuckingCLUE How Much UFC Made Off that Pay Per View, Yet Want to CAP Silva's Earning Potential, Unbeknownst...

Maybe REED's Got it Wrong, but when he Orders PPV's it's to See the FIGHTER'S, Not the Suits...The FIGHTER(s) is the Attraction, the Product, However You Want to Word It...








REED:hammert:

 

Yeah, it's Probably BEST You Run Along....

REED's Already Wiped his Ass w/your Points about Site Fees, Fighter Purses, Production/Marketing Costs, in Relation to Individual PPV Payouts...But Allow REED to Leave you w/a Parting Gift...

WHO is UFC's PPV Distributor???...Serious Question, Because REED Isn't Sure...

You Said Most PPV Distributors Take 50% Off the Top, but in Boxing, the Major PPV Distributors are HBO & Showtime...Which Means HBO & Showtime Take 50% of THEIR OWN SHIT, Off the Top, Which is Why Fighters like Tyson, Holyfield, DeLa, Floyd, etc., Made/Make the Money they Do...When You're Doing In House PPV's w/In House Talent, you Can PAY That Talent Accordingly...

WHO is UFC's Distributor???...You Wouldn't Come within Smelling Distance of the Other Pertinent Points REED Made, so Perhaps You Can Answer that Question for Him, @ Least???...

A UFC PPV Can Be Purchased Through MANY Outlets; AT & T, Comcast, Dish Direct, Dish Network, Roku, X-Box, Playstation, Apple TV, on the Internet, Tablets AND Mobiles...On their Website Alone, UFC ADVERTISES Nearly 30 DIFFERENT PPV Outlets...

So Again, WHO is UFC's Official PPV Distributor???...




REED:hammert:

 

It's about 28%.

 

The correct answer is : Exactly what his contract stipulates he should be paid.

There is absolutely no other correct answer. AND, if at any point the fighter feels the risk or work is not worth what they contractually agreed to be paid, the fighter can simply NOT fight anymore. The UFC, on the other hand, cannot force a fighter to fight.

 

Apparently, YOU Don't Understand Simple Math...


REED

 

REED Agrees with This...

If a Contract is In Place, Adhere to It. But if the Fighter has PROVEN Box Office Appeal, and has an Out he Can Rightfully Exercise, REED is ALL for that Fighter Renogiating for a Higher Purse and More PPV Leverage...



REED

 

It Puts an Exclamation Point on the Littany of INACCURACIES You've Posted in this Thread, but You're Tooooo Caught Up in FAUX Business Sense to Realize It...

Try a Calculator Next Time, Since "Simple Math" Escapes You...




REED

 

The basis for the claim that UFC fighters are underpaid is based on our decades of experience knowing what boxers make for the same buy rates.

You guys then go off on the UFC's different business model. All the time ignoring that they have created this business model because it is far preferable to the model that boxing promoters have to deal with. Imo, the UFC is a monopoly with vertical monopoly traits mixed in for good measure. Giving the UFC a free pass to fuck over fighters because the UFC is so powerful is like crying for plantation owners compared to business owners.

Dana says the UFC is the NFL. But then what are the fighters? They aren't the teams and they aren't the players. Each of those groups has far more power to control their financial outcomes. It's hard to come up with an accurate analogy because monopolies aren't generally permitted. Perhaps the fighters would be the equivalent of NFL teams if the NFL teams didn't have any control over their regular season schedules, there was no set format for playoffs, and the NFL controlled how much money they would make for playing.

 

I simply pointed out a blatantly false statement by you. There is a difference between 28% and "over 30%".

And indeed it seems to be you who doesn't understand simple maths opcorn:

lmao.

 

So because we don't know how much the UFC made off of the PPV, it's wrong to say that Silva got paid what he deserved. But it is ok to say he was underpaid.

Gotta love Reed logic.


TFK

 

Relax, you're being very defensive about one falsity I couldn't help but point out, matter of factly.

I have no stake in this argument, and I wasn't even looking for errors. As I skim read, I couldn't help but notice that of course 6 isn't over 30% of 21.

 

You're Applying "REED's Logic" to Mike's Typewritten Words...

Gotta Love TFK's REEDing Comprehension...




REED

 

You have YET to Show the Slightest Bit of TANGIBLE Evidence that Silva Walked Away with 20%...

You've PRETENDED to Know What you're Talking about for 2-3 Daaaaaaays Now, While Illustrating NATHAN of Actual Substance...

If you Could you WOULD...





REED