UFC holding up Anderson Silva's $6 million payday

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I pointed it out because it's wrong, irrespective of the monetary value the error represents.

If you'd have said it was under 25%, I would have pointed it out all the same, because it's wrong.

It would be like me saying "Whatever, it's only one fight" to someone responding to the incorrect assertion that Barrera KO'd Pacquiao. If something's wrong it's wrong - your statement was wrong, so I called you on it, simple as that.

 

Until I see proof that the ppv providers take 1/2 of the UFC ppv, I'm skeptical of that claim.

The way the UFC model is set up--regularity, superb minimum buy rate--there is little reason to believe they don't get a better deal than the 50% number that is often cited.

Hell, if they were paying 50%, they'd be better off becoming a provider.

 

I guess Mike hacked into your account and posted this....

TFK

 

I was actually about to write the exact same thing, pretty much. PPV providers taking an entire 50% is insane. A business as savvy as the UFC would have surely found a more efficient way of doing business.

 

That's fucking mental, I know 50% of a large pot is better than 100% of nothing, as the saying goes, but still - you really would have thought they'd be able to improve on such a shit deal.

Even Apple only takes 30% of app store sales, which in itself is a pretty fucking large chunk, and they are one of the greediest companies in the world.

 

The common mistake made when this discussion happens is looking at the revenue from an individual card as a singular event, and not as part of the overall bottom line of the company. The money generated on any particular card goes to more than just expenses of that card.

You don't think the UFC is spending boatloads of money in their global expansion? Trying to build their base in places like the Phillipines, Europe, Brazil, Australia, etc takes a lot of money invested. Also, you have to believe right now they're taking a loss on UFC Fight Pass, but that's an investment in the future as they clearly want to get out of the PPV Market. They're just taking things slow, watching how the WWE Network works out, and if it succeeds, you can damn sure bet the UFC will go the same route and put all PPV's on Fight Pass as they work to bypass the PPV providers.

Also, you gotta believe the government takes a nice chunk of change from every event. And their health insurance covering all of the fighters has to be costing them a ton. Not to mention the money they spend lobbying to legalize MMA in New York, etc, etc, etc.

So when you look at a single event and say it brought in X amount of money, so Fighter Y should get at least Z amount of money, it's not looking at it from an overall perspective.


TFK

 

Speaking of UFC in the Philippines, the Manila card on May 16 just got it's main event. Uriah Faber against Frankie Edgar. Good fight, but Edgar is gonna wreck Faber.


TFK

 

The internet has to be the answer.

Once "Smart TV" style set top boxes are the norm, or Smart TVs, and everyone has top speed, rock solid internet, they can just make UFC PPV's only through the UFC app. Which of course people will have on their set top boxes, or TVs, media players, whatever.

 

You guys act like the UFC should be treated with kid gloves because of their monopolistic tendencies. Their ability to seek world domination, to have so many side project (that are presumably profitable), and to have so many other things going on

IS BECAUSE OF THE FIGHTERS, not in spite of them.

MLB, NFL...the players have unions, i.e. POWER, and they share in the overall success of their respective entity:

One person told the AP that the players' share would approach the 50 percent the NFLPA has said it has received throughout the last decade. But the expense credits - about $1 billion last year - that the league takes off the top would disappear. http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/NFL-labor-owners-and-players-talk-revenue-split-062111

Until the UFC fighters have something similar to a union, the UFC has demonstrated time and time again that they have no problem fucking over fighters financially. You guys defending them because "Hey, $6 million is a lot of money!" are just being patsies.

I'm trying not to have the last word because we've gone over this too much in the past and, except for the recent lawsuit, nothing has really changed. So, I'll try not to respond, haha, but damn you guys are frustrating with your UFC worship/defending. A distant second annoyance to PEDs in the sport for me, but still an annoyance.

 

The WWE model has similarities, but it is an extremely flawed comparison to the UFC.

Why? Because it isn't real. Everything about it is contrived, including its participants. It's not a sport. How its actors are compensated is irrelevant. They are more like tv actors than fighters when it comes to what they deserve. WWE participants don't make the WWE; UFC fighters do make the UFC.

 

That's not necessarily true. Working for the UFC gives the fighters a name and increases their value vastly. There aren't many fighters in the sport, especially in the post Pride era, who can make big money working outside of the UFC.


TFK

 

Irrelevant. They aren't athletes in the same sense as mma fighters. I would say they are actors or performers whose job requires athletic ability. But, they are more similar to gymnasts or acrobats than they are to fighters.

Comparing the UFC to the WWE is just a red herring.

 

But that's just It, UFC has Close to 30 PPV Providers, Based on Information on THEIR Site...So To ASSume UFC is Splitting 50% Off the TOP w/their PPV Provider(s) ISN'T Based on FACT...Given UFC's Business Model, there's NO DOUBT They've Looked @ Alternate Ways of Providing PPV, Which is WHY REED Asked WHO their Distributor Is...

If it's MULTIPLE Entities, they WOULDN'T Have the Leverage to Demand 50% Off the Top...

As REED Pointed Out Yesterday, Showtime & HBO Are THEIR OWN IN-HOUSE PPV Distributors...Wouldn't Surprise REED @ All if UFC's Heading that Direction (If Not There ALREADY) & Divy Out SMALL %'s to the 20+ Providers Listed on their Website...

Point Being, there'd Be Considerably MORE Money @ UFC's Disposal, to Pay Anderson Silva...




REED:hammert:

 

THIS!!


REED:hammert:

 

Now Go Back & REED the EXACT Words YOU Attributed to REED...


See the Difference???...Even Stevie Wonder Could...




REED:woo:

 

For the 15th Time WHO is UFC's Distributor/ Provider?





REED

 

UFC 184 - Rousey vs. Zingano is LITERALLY Being Shown on PPV by the Following Providers:
1. AT & T
2. Comcast
3. Direct TV
4. Dish Network
5. Cox Cable
6. Verizon Fios
7. Joe Hand Promotions
8. WOW!
9. Optimum
10. Time Warner Cable
11. Suddenlink
12. Mediacom
13. Bright House
14. Charter
15. Buckeye
16. Apple TV
17. Roku
18. Xbox
19. Playstation
20. Samsung Apps
21. LG Smart
22. UFC TV
23. Yahoo Sports
24. Youtube
25. Android Market
26. ITunes App Store


The EXCLUSIVITY of Being a PPV Provider is What Enables them to Take 50% Off the Top, Typically...

In UFC's Case, they're Clearly NOT Exclusive to Anybody...They Simply DON'T Have to Be...If 1 Provider Charges Toooooo Much, there's 20+ Others Standing in Line...w/UFC Having Sooooo Many Options @ their Disposal, REED Just Can't Fathom the Old Guard "50 Off the Top" Rule Applying to Them...





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