Reports: Hector Lombard vs. Rory MacDonald targeted for UFC 186 in Montreal

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  1. Azazel

    Azazel "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    How so ? A champ retiring robs us of the continuity of the title and adds a ton of ''what if'' to the debate. I really don'T see how you can be of that opinion unless you'Re a fan of a fighter first instead of the sport.
     
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    mexican wedding shirt The Greatest of Are Times

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    Exactly what I was thinking. For a company with the UFC's revenue, it's pocket change.

    Too expensive :lol:
     
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    mexican wedding shirt The Greatest of Are Times

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    I think his point is GSP probably wouldn't be the same fighter if he came back, therefore nullifying the "what if" debate.

    And he has a point. He had shown signs of slipping, and didn't look good in the Hendricks fight.

    I don't think Hendricks is particularly good either, I think GSP would have beaten him fairly easily a couple of years earlier.
     
  4. Anthony

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    You guys are delusional. If you want to stop Ped use, you cant fucking just test the people fighting at an event. You have to test ALL the fighters all the time. Or else what is the point? To eliminate ped use, you have to test each person on the roster every week for the whole year. THAT is why it's expensive.
     
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    dont be foolish. Read my statements above. It makes no sense to laugh and do what this guy is talking about because that is what is advocating, is happening now. If you truly want to eliminate Peds in the UFC, you have to test these fighters all year long, whether they are fighting or not.
     
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    I prefer seeing an all time great go out when he's still on top. It doesn't happen often. I don't want to see an older GSP get destroyed like BJ Penn, Chuck Liddell, and all the other guys who kept fighting too long.

    GSP could probably beat Lawler for the title if he came back now. Then what? He hasn't been the same since the knee injuries. He's not going to walk through today's top welterweights like he did when he was younger.
     
  7. Anthony

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    problem is the UFC needs him now more than ever. if GSP comes back he will making some serious dough.
     
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    mexican wedding shirt The Greatest of Are Times

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    Every week seems excessive. Surely every couple of weeks would suffice?

    How much would that cost? You're the one who thinks it's far too expensive, so exactly how much would it cost?
     
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    So let's do every couple of weeks for the whole year, for 300 plus fighters on the roster. Paying an outside organization to administer it. Does it take rocket science to know that would be expensive? Common sense is all that is needed to figure that out.
     
  10. Trplsec

    Trplsec Sleeps in a Cage

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    You don't have to test every fighter, every week or even every month. If you did random test every 2 weeks on random fighters on the roster, whether they have an up coming fight or not, you would significantly weed out dirty fighters and clean up the UFC.

    There would be an additional expense but it would be far from damaging. Many companies, both larger and smaller, have similar policies and practices without going out of business.

    The cost to the UFC is going to be far more painful when the PPV revenue is impacted as more and more top caliber fighters get popped.

    Personally I think the UFC wants to talk stricter testing without actually doing any stricter testing. At the end of the day, if a Jon Jones gets popped (By the UFC and not an athletic commission) the UFC has to enforce some level of punishment. If they cut him from the roster, he goes to Bellator or WSOF and immediately gives a boom to the other organization while simultaneously removing a draw from the UFC.

    Do they fine him? If they fine him, where does that fine go? Into the UFC's already purportedly greedy pockets? Or maybe Jones just declines to fight since the reward/risk ratio is diminished by the fine.

    Or do they suspend him? Then the UFC loses one of the biggest draws on their roster and ends up punishing themselves.
     
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    mikE "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    The errant capital letters referring to mE? I have always shared the opinion you express, not mw###'s.
     

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