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  1. Irish

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    I said he had alluded to the impact of the fight on Floyds legacy.

    He said had not.

    I showed him he had.

    That should have been the end of it.
     
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    You said it an attempt to say he's pulling for the guy...
     
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    My original claim, which you have not refuted, not that you could, in fairness, is that black people will be rooting for Floyd.

    I still reckon Reed will be a PBF fan come the hour.

    But even if he wasn't, it will not materially alter the fundament of my original claim.

    If that makes me "close minded", "Ignorant" and "sheltered", then so be it.
     
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    That high yella scoundrel X doesn't count, damn it!

    same goes for Reggie Miller and Roy White and Ali and James Earl Jones

    come May 2, only those who are near or beyond The Tarver Line shall be considered Black
     
  6. Irish

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    Blacks will be supporting Floyd. Does this irk you, or does this being pointed out irk you....please explain!
     
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    Blacks whites Hispanics Jews will be supporting both fighters ... It means nothing to me... What irks me are these absolutes that blacks will blindly support Mayweather simply because he is black, implying many things such as blind tribalism, peer pressure, lack of free will, the stupidity and simple small mindedness inherent in all of those things, etc.

    the assertion seems to be that blacks are somehow inherently unable to be neutral or partial to the other guy, like doing so would be equivalent to being a supergrass in the eyes of the majority of blacks... This is why you have a bunch of people giving you shit
     
  8. Irish

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    Tribalism isn't blind. Besides, Floyd is also American. I can't explain why Floyd appeals so much to the {admittedly narrow, relatively speaking} class of black people that I have spoken to, and speak to, but he does seem to appeal to them. It could all be simply explained by the fact that he engages with them along the lines of the bling and the money and all that shit.

    But most of these people either live, work or have grown up in the shadow of Canary Wharf in Londons Docklands, itself the very epitome of the vulgar "money" mentality and they are not clamouring to join in.

    Bernard Hopkins had it LARGELY accurate when he referred to tribalism in boxing.

    Why are people in the Phillipines rooting for Manny.....they identify with him.

    Ditto Floyd, and for me, race plays no small part in that.

    There is NOTHING wrong with ANY of that, I mean that sincerely.
     
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    REED is Black Irish.

    He's undecided.
     
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    That is all true, I think the disagreement started when you assumed that pretty much ALL black people are rooting for Floyd.

    Given what an utter twat Floyd is, there must be a huge portion of black people that don't like him, even if they would have ideally liked to support their supremely talented brethren.
     
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    Pretty much all black people will be rooting for Floyd. If you want to split hairs, and look for Loki under a stone swinging the other way, then fine, go for it. The notion that there is some sort of a huge festering population of black folk out there desperate to see this guy lose for the betterment of black educational standards is pathetic.

    You take all the "Urban" community motherfuckers, the guy that Reed and Neil are constantly quoting, and you tell me how many of them are hoping Floyd loses....go on, give us a laugh.
     
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    Who cares?
     
  13. Irish

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    He says after losing the fight.
     
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    What fight?
     
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    Black educational standards?

    I thought this Mayweather was a prizefighter?
     
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    Oh I see. They want him to lose because he is not a good enough fighter :lol: and not because he is a monied douche who can;t REED and wants everybody to be as stupid as he is.
     
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    Wait what?

    I thought they want him to win because he's black?
     
  18. Irish

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    Most black people do.

    You said otherwise.

    Not me.
     
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    REED has been pretty much a straight shooter when it comes to Floyd. Color has no influence on the analysis being done. He saw through the bullshit and has been critical of it regardless...
     
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    I agree. The analysis of how the fight came to be, and how it will be decided, is pretty objective.

    But I still say that every black person I have spoken to will root for Floyd, and that for all intents and purposes, all black people will.

    Exceptions will be few as to make no odds to the strength of my general premise.
     
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    I don't know that Floyd is more famous in the U.S. than Peyton Manning or Tom Brady. I don't know anyone who doesn't know who they are....non-sports fans, old ladies, kids, etc...
     
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    Who will Reed be rooting for I don't know, and it's entirely up to him and wouldn't hold it against him if he did root for Floyd. I will be rooting for Pacquaio, not because Floyd is black. I wish and hope everyday we move from viewing or judging a person because of their race, religious or sexual background. There is no inferiority of any race, only a lack of vision, or lack of hard work. African-Americans in our world had to prove themselves and have done so in all areas. Medicine, literature, arts, sports and some even could be President of these United States...

    Floyd's hard work and dedication have never been an issue. He works harder than anybody and always comes better prepared. It's other issues that posters, regardless of his background, have criticized him for and will rank him appropriately when it's all said and done.
     
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    Neither would I, in fact, I would consider it more askew that he would NOT root for Floyd.
     
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    Leo Messi is a dirty little dwarf but him and Cristiano Ronaldo are the two best known athletes on Planet Earth.
     

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