Rocky IV/ Creed

Rocky IV - For some reason I started watching this the other night. Probably the first time I watched it all the way through in decades. Not only is this the strangest Rocky film ever, this may be one of the strangest movies ever made.

The montages were insane, especially the ones that showed clips of previous Rocky movies that looked like they were filmed in a completely different dimension as this one.

Paulie and his pet robot butler. WTF! The future I guess.

Rocky, born of humble means, now lives in fucking Buckingham Palace, furnished only by the shadow of Talia Shire. He drives around in a Lamborghini thinking about the good ol' days when he was poor and kicking ass, or when he was not so poor and his stupid friends were dying all around him, while Rocky pounded on cow shanks.................. in typical 80's montage fashion of course.

Rocky, in order to escape his chaperones at his training camp, veers off his normal jogging path and climbs a motherfucking 15,000 foot peak in the Ural Mountains through 6 feet of snow and wearing only sweat clothes and jogging shoes. How will he get down from this peak and back to his training camp. It's getting dark and the weather is closing in. That's not important bitches. Rocky got back down the steps of the Philadelphia Museum of Art in a previous film. How is a gigantic cliff strewn peak in the middle of Siberia any different then that?

Apollo Creed had a really bad corner, and Rocky Balboa is a horrible cornerman! ::

Apollo Creed would rather die in the ring, then have to live one more day with his clingy family!

In what can only be called prophetic, Rocky single-handedly brings about Glasnost and Perestroika, while a Mikhail Gorbachov clone looks on and claps his approval at Rocky's winning form. Remember this was released in 1985.

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Dolph "Motherfucking" Lundgren. His beatdown of Apollo was somewhat lackluster, but his fight with Rocky. Sonofabitch looked like prime Vitali in there. Perfect command of space, laser jab from the back foot to keep distance. Economical use of power punching. It's only when he reverted back to Pre-Corrie Sanders Wlad style, things started to go south for him.

All the fights in this movie looked like they took place in abandoned Airplane hangars.

Who the fuck was that guy commentating the fights with Barry Tompkins? I think he said 3 words the entire movie.

Oh, so many other nuggets of awesomeness. I recommend this as a group watch with a bunch of friends, just for the commentary this should bring about


5/10

 

:laugh11::bears:

 

In the heat of the moment, during a fight, Bridgette Nielson leans over and smokes some old guys cigarette, while it's still in his hand. Who the fuck does that? Bridgette Nielson, that's who.

 

Best Rocky movie imo.

 

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Apt parody

 

First time I watched Rocky IV I was heavily disappointed and thought it was crap. In real life the American boxer would be the one with all the high tech devices and the Russian the one training in a Siberian ranch. The editing was awful and that last speech with the Russian crowds cheering and applauding the capitalist foreigner who just beat their local hero was cringe worthy. Still the character of Ivan Drago was fascinating as a formidable opponent for Rocky and that is this film's main attraction.

 

Rocky IV is what it is: An enjoyable bad movie.

Same as Commando, and The Last Dragon. Movies that are if you pick apart from a purist stand-point are dumb, cheesy, and totally ridiculous, but are fun as Hell to watch!

I sure as FUCK would rather watch all three over "Best Picture" Birdman.

 

'you will lose'

 

James Brown was the best part of Rocky IV.

 

"Vill"

 

"GUILTY PLEASURE"...To this Day, REED Could Watch Rocky IV (& III) @ ANY Given Time...

Stallone Really DIDN'T Have Much Choice, When you Think About It...It's DOUBTFUL he Made "Rocky" w/ANY Intentions of a Sequel, but Given the Success of the Original, he Pretty Much HAD to Do One...& For the Sake of Character Development/Evolution, Rocky HAD to Win the RE w/Apollo, in "Rocky II"...

REED Doubts Sly Made "Rocky II" w/a Sequel in Mind, but AGAIN, Success Warranted a Follow Up...By Then, Stallone Recognized he Had a FRANCHISE on his Hands, so he Went w/ENTERTAINMENT VALUE Over the Quality of the STORY...Insert Tough, Muscular, Shit Talking Black Dude w/a Mohawk, for the 3rd Installment...Bad Ass, Roided Up Russian for the 4th...

Teaming Rocky & Apollo Up, Rocky ROCKIN' Apollo's Star Spangled Trunks, Mickey Dying, Apollo Dying...Sly Did what he HAD to Do...Rocky WAS Who he Was...Aside from Fighting or Being a Goon for the Mob or Screaming "Yo Adrian", there wasn't Much Else to Elaborate On, in the Form of a Motion Picture...Rocky was Pretty Much a STATIC Character...

The First 2 "Rocky's" & the Final 2 were Taken MUCH More Seriously than 3 & 4 Were...But for Sheer REWATCHABILITY, REED Could Check Them Out @ ANY Given Time, Whether it's the Beginning, Middle or Towards the End....




REED:cheer:

 

It's a fascinating watch for sure. Completely dated and bad, but fascinating nonetheless.

 

I give the review 5/10. Rocky IV is a masterpiece. The scene between Rocky and his wife was great. The quick scene of Rocky and his trainer Duke. "You know you're going to have to go through hell, but in the end, I know you'll be the one standing". Beautiful. The back to back training montages. The epic fight. The fall of Apollo.

Shit I gotta go watch it again now. FUCK YOU for that review.

 

To this Day, it's DIFFICULT Watching the Apollo-Drago Fight...Every Sooooo Often, REED'll Fast Forward PAST It, when the Flick is On...

Not Quite Roy-Tarver II, but In the Ballpark....

REED::

 

I skip the whole first part of the movie up until Rocky signs to fight. Too painful.

 

You're welcome. :bears:

 

Sounds retarded

 

If he dies. He doesn't get a rematch.

 

Is Dolph Lundgren in it?

 

:bears:

 

It would be 100x cooler if instead of rocky rambo trained Apollo's kid to kill drago

 

If Crafted CAREFULLY, this Could Become Yet Another Franchise for Stallone...




REED:hammert:

 

U couldn't be more wrong retard

 

A. You're Thread Stalking...B. Who'd have Thought "The Expendables" Would Become a Franchise???...

With the Built-In Back Story of "Rocky" and Sly BRIDGING the Gap, "Creed" Very Well COULD Become a Franchise of its Own...It'll Never EVER Resonate the Way the "Rocky" Franchise did, but it COULD Become Something the NOW Generation of Movie Watchers Latches Onto...

No Guarantees, but STRANGER Things have Happened...




REED:hammert:

 

If Sly had the hunger and motivation from back in the days of writing rocky 1 then sure. I just see Sly trying to cash out on anything and everything from the past that made him money. This will be some cheese feel good story about rocky helping some troubled black kid and that's that. Now if they were thinking outside the box once they would make rocky train the kid then the kid dying in the ring like his dad. Guilt consumes rocky and he offs himself. But no it will be some tacky shit.

 

If Sly's SMART, the Kid Doesn't Even Fight for a Title in the 1st Flick OR Loses in a Bid for the Title...Similar to How Rocky LOST to Apollo their 1st Fight...

But if the Kid WINS the Title in this 1st Flick, then Yeah, it's Completely UNBELEIVABLE, a Re-Hash of "Rocky V", & a Money Grab on Sly's Behalf...

From What REED has Read, Rocky will Be Suffering w/Parkinson's, Dementia, or Something to that Effect, In the "Creed" Film...Sooooo If they're SMART, the 1st "Creed" Film Ends w/the Kid on the Verge of a Title Shot or LOSING that Title Shot, w/the Sequel Being ALL about Pursuit of the Title &/or a RE...

& Rocky Would DIE in the Sequel...Maybe Even EARLY in the Flick, as Mickey Did in "Rocky III"...



REED:hammert:

 

Wouldn't Apollos kid be in like his mid-30's by now?

Will he be a scrappy Glencoffe Johnson type fighter, who is aging, but just needs the right shot, the right judges and the right opponent to break through to the next level while at an advanced age?