UFC 184 - ROUSEY vs. ZINGANO

Great, but we're talking about Rousey, someone obviously 100 times better than your BJJ friend, against someone her own size, 135 pounds.

 

Of course I'm talking about someone her own size, a fair fight. She'd whup Miesha's boyfriend, put it that way ::

As much of a rank amateur as Zingano looked, it was extremely fucking impressive how Ronda handled her.

The sheer speed and efficiency at which she dominated that wild scramble and got that strange armbar was incredible, probably the most impressed I've been with her actually.

 

No, no, no. MWS didn't talk about Ronda fighting some 135 lb dipshit guy off the street, he talked about Faber. Faber would kill Ronda.

It is my belief that someone as far down the food chain as Carson Beebe would have zero problems beating Ronda. Does anyone disagree?

 

Rousay WORKS just about Any Regular Guy, her Size or Smaller...But within her Own Sport, the Likes of Faber, Dillashaw, Dodson and Demetrious Johnson all WRECK Her...




REED

 

That's only because Cruz would get hurt and pull out of the fight before it could ever happen.


TFK

 

You hit the nail on the head. Rousey's brutal speed and efficiency is scary to watch. It's also her awareness in scrambles that makes her so deadly.

When her and Cat hit the floor in that wild scramble, Cat got discombobulated while Ronda knew exactly where they were. You cannot duplicate Ronda's Olympic level Judo childhood.

By the way, I'd love to see Rousey throw Bryan Carraway around the cage. I have no doubt she could beat him.

 

Oh fuck. Rousey is not beating Carraway. You guys are embarrassing yourselves.

 

Rondas weakness is striking so why do all these dumb bitches get close to her and end up getting thrown? Box this cunt from a distance.

 

:l3:

 

How would women be better at MMA than boxing where in MMA, physical strenght is far more important and that's something men have in spade over women ?

 

She'd beat Caraway easy.

 

I think you could go a lot farther down the ladder to find men being able to handle Rousey easily.

 

I think men have explosiveness and chin over women. Some women are very physically strong, like Ronda. And obviously skill is something that is potentially the same, agility too. Women are actually more supple, generally.

You only have to look for yourself. Look at top female boxers Vs their male counterparts, then the same for MMA. Female MMA fighters are far more impressive, it's not even close.

Women's punching is pretty pathetic. Lacks that explosion of energy that good male boxers have.

Rousey on the other hand, is every bit as impressive a grappler as any male.

 

You nailed it too. Her sense of awareness was unreal, the way she knew exactly what she was doing amidst that wild scramble, and achieved a dominant position and armbar within a couple of seconds.

Reminds me a bit of a wild predatory animal, like a big cat or mongoose, the way they instinctively know what to do in the heat of the moment, almost like they're fighting in slow motion.

You think that mainly comes from years and years of high level judo?

 

You're Underestimating the Built-In ADVANTAGE of Man Strength, Bro...

Could Ronda Rousey Get a Lower Level UFC DUDE (Smaller than Her) Into a Compromising Position???...Potentially...Could that Same Lower Level UFC Dude POWER his Way from Rousey's Grasp, Absolutely...

If Rousey has an Arm Bar LOCKED IN, Fight's Over...But 1nce She STARTED the Process of Going for the Arm Bar, the Lower Level UFC Dude Would Likely POWER OUT of it...Jon Jones POWERED His Way Out of a Deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep Arm Bar from Belfort....The MAJORITY of Lower Level UFC Dudes (Smaller than Her) Could/Would Do Likewise to Rousey...

& Let's Not Even Discuss the Effects of a LANDED Strike, Delivered from a Man, to Rousey...





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Agree. Rousey's dominance is apples and oranges compared to Royce in the early days. Cat Zingano is a freaking BJJ black belt.

Ronda isn't throwing unknown moves on chicks like Royce did. She's doing it to high level female grapplers that know all about Jiu-Jitsu and know all about arm bars.

Ronda's dominance is because she is just on a completely different athletic level than these other chicks. Mentally and physically Ronda is simply superior.

Rousey is more like Tyson in the sense that's she's wiping out a bunch of fighters that are generally very good when compared to each other but look horrible when facing her.

My guess is, also like Tyson, Rousey will eventually lose due to diminished focus rather than the talent catching up to her. It might take a while because Rousey's Cus D'Amato, her mom, is still alive and remains a driving influence.

 

135 women's division sucks. What is Ronda gonna do against a great striker with great tdd ? Too bad no one like that around in that shitty division.

 

Ronda versus a 135 pound female version of GSP would be fun.

But I don't think a division sucks because they don't have that.

 

Those women who are fighting ronda are idiots. They just run up on her and slug away. It looks like those tough man boxing matches. How about some movement? or leg kicks? Ronda is not a wrestler. She's not shooting on u. She needs u close to throw u so why are all those dykes accommodating her? Because women are emotional and dumb. Charging with some half assed flying knee idiot

 

OK. Now I get you. It doesn't seem like you've actually watched much of Rousey's career. Cat is really the first opponent to charge at Ronda. Normally it is Rousey pushing forward and closing distance for every second of her fights. Cat was the exception. The whole book on Rousey is her relentless aggressiveness.

It would be hard to miss that if you EVER watched Rousey fight before.

And I don't know think even the most die hard chick fight haters would say a fight like Rousey-Tate II looked anything like a tough man fight.

 

I've seen them all. Don't remember details but it seems every fight Ronda is in a clinch distance in a matter of seconds.

 

Who is this random guy with 10,999 posts? ::

 

Good post, I agree with pretty much all of that.

 

You might be right, but that's why it's an interesting proposition.

And IMO, you're all OVERestimating the strength advantage men would have on Ronda, AND how significant that strength advantage would be against Ronda's agility and grappling skill.

Judo seems more about technique than raw strength, using the other person's weight against them etc, from what I know if it anyway.

She would get outstruck with ease, and probably brutally, by someone like Faber sure.

But honestly I see no reason AT ALL why she couldn't potentially do what she did to Zingano to any male 135 pounder. If Ronda can avoid standup at all costs, it's not unlikely at all that a male fighter could get similarly disoriented in a scramble, outmanoeuvred by Ronda and have their arm latched onto within a couple of seconds.

She doesn't need to pick them up over her head and slam with, all she needs to do is use her elite judo to toss them to the floor, confuse them, surprise them, and grab an arm.