Kovalev vs a prime Calz

Discussion in 'Mythical Matchups' started by Xplosive, Mar 15, 2015.

  1. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2003
    Messages:
    56,793
    Likes Received:
    13,814
    Location:
    Your girl's crib
    My prediction is that Joe would have snorted a few lines, and said no way in Hell I'm facing this guy.

    But for arguments sake, who wins?

    I think Kov would have given the slap master a vicious beating.

    Zag just didn't have enough power to really deter Kov. Plus, it was just in Zag's DNA to trade and I think in the long-run Kov would do much damage to him.

    I remember chinless Charles Brewer being able to hurt a prime version of Calz.

    By the late rounds, Kov would be bouncing him around the ring and Poppa Enzo would likely throw in the towel and save his boy.
     
  2. puerto rock

    puerto rock WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2003
    Messages:
    12,449
    Likes Received:
    1,579
    Pretty much.

    Joe had the tools to fight the right fight, but his pride would get him to flurry and exchange with the bigger and stronger guy, and as you said, he can't deter him.

    Kovalev via late stoppage indeed.

    For kicks, imagine what Kovalev does to any version of Jeff Lacy. :lol:
     
  3. Jesus of montreal

    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Joined:
    Jan 5, 2006
    Messages:
    13,395
    Likes Received:
    2,248
    Calzaghe is not much better than Pascal, and he has even less power to deter him. It wont be a lot more competitive than last night fight,

    I disagree about calzaghe proprension to slugging, I'd expect him to be in clinching mode, like he nearly always was when faced against fighters that threatened him (Reid and Hopkins come to mind)
     
  4. Neil

    Neil tueur de grenouilles

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2006
    Messages:
    39,468
    Likes Received:
    4,416
    Occupation:
    The Cal Ripken of Alcoholism
    :lol:
     
  5. meetthefeebles

    meetthefeebles Drunken Geordie Bastard

    Joined:
    Aug 11, 2007
    Messages:
    22,216
    Likes Received:
    2,455
    Location:
    A town called malice
    Fucking hell is Kovalev getting overrated. Pascal lost half a dozen years ago to the fighting farmer. He's decent, but no more than that. Cazalghe was a lot better than everyone Kovalev has feasted himself on thus far (including the decrepit version of Hopkins Kov fought).

    MTF
     
  6. Dog Jones

    Dog Jones WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Joined:
    May 3, 2010
    Messages:
    15,270
    Likes Received:
    1,374
    Calzaghe the KO specialist comes out with his hand raised
     
  7. Irish

    Irish Yuge, Beautiful

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2002
    Messages:
    111,363
    Likes Received:
    8,428
    Location:
    In The Trenches With My Boy Sepp
    Home Page:
    You blocks, you stones, you worse than senseless things.

    There is MORE than ONE way to "Discourage" a guy.

    How did Niccolino Locche "discourage" Paul Fuji into quitting......how did Ray Leonard "discourage" Roberto Duran into quitting......?? With their vaunted power???

    Kovalev would do a lot of missing and missing tires you out.

    Plus Kovalev would go into the ring CONVINCED that Joe was not strong or hard punching.

    Joe Calzaghe, the slapper, dumped Chris Eubank on his arse with one hook. Nigel Benn barely got a legit KD over Eubank {Eubank slipped on some water in the corner}
    when they fought and Benn crippled McClellan.

    He also proved harder hitting and stronger than Jeff Lacy, another guy, whom if Calzaghe never fought, would also be in here in MM kicking the shit out of Joe.

    Calzaghe is faster, more active, just as strong, and has underrated power. This notion that he just gets folded by Kovalev is nonsense.
     
  8. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2003
    Messages:
    56,793
    Likes Received:
    13,814
    Location:
    Your girl's crib
    Calz is NOT just as strong as Kov. That's horseshit.

    The gap in power between the two of them is larger than the gap in speed.

    Calz had fast hands, but let's not make it seem like he had the handspeed of RJ or Ray Leonard.

    And Kov is FAAARRR from slow.

    Kov is faster and more athletic than Kessler was, and he's light years better than Lacy in every facet.
     
  9. Irish

    Irish Yuge, Beautiful

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2002
    Messages:
    111,363
    Likes Received:
    8,428
    Location:
    In The Trenches With My Boy Sepp
    Home Page:
    Who has Kovalev proven his strength against............show me where he manhandles these fucking dudes......
     
  10. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2002
    Messages:
    90,394
    Likes Received:
    4,377
    Occupation:
    SUCK MY BALLS!!
    Location:
    Beyond The Pale
    Another mythical matchup for sure since that homo would never in a million years take a fight like this ... The euros love this faggot ... Dass dey one... Yeah, the guy who comfortably made 168 his whole career except for a couple of fights against a shot old man and a decade-plus middleweight is AS STRONG AS the large light heavyweight... You can't make this shit up
     
  11. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2003
    Messages:
    56,793
    Likes Received:
    13,814
    Location:
    Your girl's crib
    Yeah, saying Calz is as strong as Kov is pretty absurd. I re-watched Kov-Pascal yesterday. Kov was physically pushing Pascal around the ring like a rag doll. He was also physically man handling Hopkins unlike anybody else B-Hop has ever faced.

    Calz only real edge on Kov is speed, and like I said, the gap there is smaller than the gap in power.

    Kov is very quick handed. He throws combinations with FULL force too, not a 6-punch combo comprised of 1 hard punch and 5 slaps.

    Calz fans make it seem like Joe had the handspeed of the 130 version of Camacho.
     
  12. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2002
    Messages:
    90,394
    Likes Received:
    4,377
    Occupation:
    SUCK MY BALLS!!
    Location:
    Beyond The Pale
    Calzaghe fought two good fighters, one was Kessler and the other was a 78 year old spoiler with a style perfectly suited to fail against a guy who throws 100 slaps per frame... He is the most overrated fighter in history ... He was not great
     
  13. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2003
    Messages:
    56,793
    Likes Received:
    13,814
    Location:
    Your girl's crib
    This forum is NOTHING.

    Go to ESB and see how overrated he is. I shit you not, he's been picked over Spinks, prime Jones, and Foster on MM's on that forum.

    Just last week, a thread was started on who had the fastest hands of all time and his name was mentioned SEVERAL times.

    Irish is crazy to say Calz is underrated.

    It's not like we're saying fuckin Jermain Taylor would beat him.

    Kov is the most talented fighter at 175 since Jones prime ended.
     
  14. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2002
    Messages:
    90,394
    Likes Received:
    4,377
    Occupation:
    SUCK MY BALLS!!
    Location:
    Beyond The Pale
    Of course, ESB is loaded with Brits, isn't it?
     
  15. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2003
    Messages:
    56,793
    Likes Received:
    13,814
    Location:
    Your girl's crib
    Yup. Just yesterday several posters on there said Kov vs Froch is a 50-50 fight.:lol::lol:
     
  16. Irish

    Irish Yuge, Beautiful

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2002
    Messages:
    111,363
    Likes Received:
    8,428
    Location:
    In The Trenches With My Boy Sepp
    Home Page:
    What somebody said about Froch on a different forum is their business.

    Amazing.....Kovalev was now "pushing his man around like a rag doll".....no, that was Pascal running like fuck like the leap amateur he is.

    Froch was backing up Pascal too.

    So was Paul Smith in the 2002 Commonwealth Games Final.
     
  17. puerto rock

    puerto rock WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2003
    Messages:
    12,449
    Likes Received:
    1,579
    I like Froch but he ain't beating Kovalev.

    I see him getting stopped brutally in that one.

    As for Calzaghe, I agree he was fast but I wouldn't place him in top 10 as far as hand speed goes. There's just too many guys that were faster than him.
     
  18. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2003
    Messages:
    56,793
    Likes Received:
    13,814
    Location:
    Your girl's crib
    Kov would stop Froch inside of 5.

    Due to styles, it'd be less competitive than the Pascal fight.
     
  19. Irish

    Irish Yuge, Beautiful

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2002
    Messages:
    111,363
    Likes Received:
    8,428
    Location:
    In The Trenches With My Boy Sepp
    Home Page:
    Froch is simply not fluid enough to avoid shots, but crucially, not fluid enough to get his own shots off too.

    He can't discourage Kovlev by making him miss and he can't discourage Kovalev by hitting him back.

    Just how this is an indictment of Calzaghe is beyond me.
     
  20. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2003
    Messages:
    56,793
    Likes Received:
    13,814
    Location:
    Your girl's crib
    Who in the Hell said it was?

    I stated earlier that Calz was better than Froch and would have beaten Froch.
     
  21. Neil

    Neil tueur de grenouilles

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2006
    Messages:
    39,468
    Likes Received:
    4,416
    Occupation:
    The Cal Ripken of Alcoholism
    46 tried and failed against the welsh wunderkind
     
  22. whiskey

    whiskey Czarcasm

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2002
    Messages:
    47,726
    Likes Received:
    5,380
    I doubt Froch would agree.
     
  23. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2002
    Messages:
    90,394
    Likes Received:
    4,377
    Occupation:
    SUCK MY BALLS!!
    Location:
    Beyond The Pale
    If Mario Vietnam couldn't turn the trick, nobody can
     
  24. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2003
    Messages:
    56,793
    Likes Received:
    13,814
    Location:
    Your girl's crib
    He battered the great Omar Sheika you hating prick!

    What is Kov compared to Sheika?????
     
  25. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2002
    Messages:
    90,394
    Likes Received:
    4,377
    Occupation:
    SUCK MY BALLS!!
    Location:
    Beyond The Pale
    Shit, that's a fair point!
     
  26. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2003
    Messages:
    56,793
    Likes Received:
    13,814
    Location:
    Your girl's crib
    Sheika had the skill of Ezzard Charles, the speed of Jones, and the power of Foster.

    Yet Calz toyed with him........

    Doesn't bode well for Kovvles......
     
  27. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2002
    Messages:
    90,394
    Likes Received:
    4,377
    Occupation:
    SUCK MY BALLS!!
    Location:
    Beyond The Pale
    Calzaghe diffused the bombs of one Tocker Pudwill, one of the most ferocious brawlers in ring history
     
  28. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2003
    Messages:
    56,793
    Likes Received:
    13,814
    Location:
    Your girl's crib
    Let's not forget that he dismantled the white Ricardo Lopez, the one and only Richie Woodhall.
     
  29. Neil

    Neil tueur de grenouilles

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2006
    Messages:
    39,468
    Likes Received:
    4,416
    Occupation:
    The Cal Ripken of Alcoholism
    tocker pudwill >>>>>>>>>> will mcIntyre

    this man, McIntyre, lost 120-108 x3 to Dana Rosenblatt. exactly one year later, he was deemed a worthy foe for a calzaghe title defense.
     
  30. meetthefeebles

    meetthefeebles Drunken Geordie Bastard

    Joined:
    Aug 11, 2007
    Messages:
    22,216
    Likes Received:
    2,455
    Location:
    A town called malice
    Hut said he was.

    MTF
     

Share This Page