|||THE OFFICIAL||| Discussion thread: Floyd Mayweather vs. Manny Pacquiao

Manny is more likely to be awarded contentious close rounds than Floyd i think in my mind.

 

You think so? I just kind of assumed Floyd would by default, by virtue of being the biggest earner in boxing, and Haymon.

 

This, plus Manny was already robbed of a UD once against Bradley which was an undefeated black USA boxer with less influence than Floyd.

 

The bradley gift was all about arum needing for bradley to not become just another pacquiao victim. Now, instead of just losing badly to pac, he got a gift and then lost the rematch. Somehow, in this scenario he salvages more credibility.

 

Man, that shit was baffling... Surreal... Like the Yankees outscoring The Pirates 55-27 in the 7 games of the 1960 World Series, yet still losing it ... Only, the Yankees still lost fair and square based on the rules of their sport... Pacquiao was a victim of the most cynical "personal interpretations" which, no matter how improbable their defense, are a legal part of the strange boxing game

 

Agreed, it was truly surreal. I still don't really know how/why Bradley got that decision.

I thought he won literally 2 rounds, why the fuck whoever wanted him to win that badly, is a mytery to me.

Was it really Arum? Seems kind of retarded to rob your own flagship fighter.

 

Maybe, but i think the crowd will be really pro-Pac and there will also be allot of desire among neutrals for the fight not to be a damp squib; ie for Floyd not to nullify Pac and turn the fight into a disappointing non-event. Every time Pac flurries most people are gonna be seeing the landed punches they wanna see.

 

I don't know... The fight was sort of boring because Pacquaio basically seemed to take the round whenever he felt like it... I thought he pounded Bradley to the body... I expected the decision to be one sided

 

But look at the out come...Pac's status wasn't hurt one bit by the robbery. Everyone knows he won. On the other hand, Bradley is still an hbo guy...and everytime he appears now it's mentioned that he has a controversial win over pac...that's far better than a loss.. so net net...arum comes out ahead.

 

Yeah I'd agree with that

 

I suppose it's true, it still seems absurd and risky. If I was Pacquiao, I would have absolutely nothing to do with Arum if I thought Arum was behind it.

 

I'm sure there's some truth to that, but my line of thinking is - will it matter at all if the powers that be (Haymon and co) want Floyd to win, and have "satisfied" the judges and referee accordingly?

 

Get over it fags. Bradley Won the first fight! Desert storm

 

Pacquiao-Bradley 1 reminded me of Lewis-Holyfield 1 in which the "loser" of that fight pretty much won the round whenever he wanted and didn't really go ALL OUT to get the stoppage or put any emphasis on the victory.

Would be easy for me to cry conspiracy without any proof, but I would definitely like to hear what possible explanation there was for having Bradley the winner of that fight.

But if we look at it, it gave Bradley more exposure at top level, allowed him a couple of main events, and then he got to beat the man who KO'd Pac, and set the stage for a rematch on ppv. Financially, nobody made out of this the worse for wear we could say.

Draw your own conclusions.

 

Thats certainly true. Mayweather is still dangerous regardless. My point was that it cuts down the work they have to do, to make PBF engage. That's a much better alternative than chasing Floyd around the ring. Im sure if Marquez had Floyd's mobility he would used it. Unfortunately he had to stay in the pocket more and it gave PAC more opportunities to land, which he usually did.

 

That's certainly a possibility. However from what I believe if Floyd wins there's no rematch? If Manny wins a controversial decision however, there will definitely be a rematch setting up an even bigger payday for everybody especially the MGM grand.

 

The absolute best would be to see pbf knocked out and drooling on the canvas. I imagine him doing a dance like Judah did, trying to convince the ref he isn't hurt even as his brain misfires from the trauma, causing his legs to collapse under him. Would be awesome.

 

like mosley vs margarito?

 

Yes. Like that. Except margarito was never the conspicuous ass hole that pbf is, though in hind sight he was even worse ...

 

Yeah ::

 

Good point, I guess ultimately it is all about money.

 

agREED Wholeheartedly...

REED's ALWAYS Suspected Arum was Behind the ABSURDITY of Pac-Bradley I...REED Watched it @ a Sports Bar that Cleared Out EN MASSE, After the Bell Rang, Signaling the End...Nobody HAD to Stick Around for the Decision, it was Academic...

But REED KNOWS Better & ALWAYS Sticks Around for the Official Verdict of a Boxing Match...& when REED Called his Peeps, Telling them Bradley was Declared the Winner, they Thought REED was LYING, EXAGGERATING for Comedic Effect...

It was THAT Obvious Pac Won...But as You Stated, it was BETTER for Top Rank to Give Bradley the Nod, Especially when it Seemed Floyd-Pac would NEVER Happen...




REED:shit #2:

 

These guys who fix all the fights sure are good at keeping quiet.

 

Money BUYS Silence Bro...

Look Noooooo Fuuuuuuurther than Floyd-Canelo, a Fucking 10-2 (@ Best), 11-1, 12-0 Fight if EVER There was 1...Nonetheless, it was an SD for Floyd That Even Ray Charles Would've had him Winning Unanimously...

& The INEPT Female Judge, that Actually Scored that Bout in FAVOR of Canelo, DISAPPEARED from the Scene Altogether...Similar to Eugenia Williams, or Whatever that Bitch's Name Was, who Fucked Up Lewis-Holyfield I...

Money BUYS Silence...




REED:mj:

 

Uh. Yeah. Unless you're Robert durst you generally don't tell anyone about the crimes you've committed. You act like unchecked corruption is unheard of. It exists at virtually every level of government and certainly does in boxing. The fact the sport's biggest and most powerful figures (and who run the sport) haven't ever been outed should come as no surprise.

What's hilarious is when the commissions response is to send the judges to training. Ha ha. Like it's a competency issue. First of all, if it's incompetence they should be fired...not trained. There's plenty competent judges in waiting I'm sure. But more importantly, it's clearly not incompetence but rather corruption when the whole fucking world knows who won and the judge scores it the other way.

 

In fights like Bradley/Pacquiao I lean towards incompetence, yeah.

 

So how do you guys think it works?

Obviously it would have to be a small operation. Keep the risk of a leak down. Don't want too many people knowing.

Wouldn't want a paper trail either.

Think it's just Arum and the judges exchanging bags of cash?

 

If there's a judge bad enough to score that fight for bradley then whoever hired him is corrupt.

 

We knew all about the illegal shit King was doing. He was outed.

 

That helps your case?