|||THE OFFICIAL||| Discussion thread: Floyd Mayweather vs. Manny Pacquiao

I'd love to go out and watch it, but I doubt anywhere around here is even showing it.

 

I'm sure most Casinos will be showing it

 

Take The Mad Butcher Of Kingsbury Run Historical Tour!

 

I doubt it will be on the TV at most places around here ... Besides why would I want to sit sober surrounded by drunks on a Saturday night trying to see the TV?

 

To look at both of their buildings and to see a river that catches on fire.

 

Cleveland once had three times it's current population

 

At least it's still got both of its buildings.

 

True ... It's the little things

 

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Hopefully neither of them have been scheduled to meet the wrecking ball.

 

I really hope these American cities bounce back eventually

 

Only one possible way.

 

They won't... There'll be a little village with skyscrapers where about 30,000 rich people live... The rest of the land and people will become American Favelas

 

cleveland is, was, and always shall be a shit hole

 

Getting some rich people to live in those skyscrapers instead of 50 miles away in suburban mansions would be the gratist first step imaginable

 

They do. It's the middle class that typically move to the burbs because the city centers are either too expensive or filled with crime.

 

They won't want any working class riff raff fouling up the place

 

Yup... Middle class leave... Working class are pushed out ... The poor are isolated in a bad neighborhood or two and redlined ...

 

http://www.crainscleveland.com/arti...sidential-population-reaches-all-time-high-in :like:

*same general thing going on in Cincinatti http://www.urbancincy.com/2013/05/d...inues-to-see-annual-population-tourism-gains/

 

That's all well and good but what about the other parts of Cleveland? How many of these new residents make less than 150K per year?

 

It says most of the new residents are 18-34 year olds so i'd imagine allot of them are just ordinary joes income wise. Surely prohibitively expensive housing isnt the big problem in the rust belt anyway? its getting a decent city neighbourhood going that enough people actually wanna live in/near. There's gapsites and vacant buildings all around the centres of these cities.

 

It's jobs ... There's no jobs that pay a living wage for a regular person ... I'd imagine most of those 18-34s are well to do or have parents who are well to do ... You'll never have these cities returning to their historic highs, it will just get lower and more exclusive economically with the people concentrated in one spot... This shit is already happening in Brooklyn... "The resurgence of Brooklyn" is really just working class and poor being priced out of places they've lived for decades ... Getting pushed out

 

Hut, we want the same thing, I just don't think it's happening at all... What's happening now is wealthy kids moving to Brooklyn to start "Joshua's Ironic Facial Hair Waxitorium"

 

That's sure better than white flight and urban decay circa 1981. A tiny handful of places like Manhattan, San fran, inner London might end up with too many rich people but that's not where inner city Cleveland or cincinatti are man.

 

How's it any better? It's of benefit to the same exclusive group of people

 

Cities were going to shit then; dangerous, filthy, beautiful old buildings being left to rot

 

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Go up the Edgware road some day. Good god. Why was the War fought, remind me, I've forgotten.

 

And now they will either be knocked down to make room for a perfume bottle/letter opener architectural monstrosity or turned into apartments for the well off ... All this supposed revival to me just smacks of the mirror image of decay... Still no place for the common person to live...

 

Go on trulia man, there's plenty places for the common man to live in Brooklyn. Coop apartments are cheap!

 

Where's he gonna work?? Can he raise a family there? The cities used to be loaded with the working class! It was a true Meltin' pot of da whole woild!!!