Floyd says he's better than Ali............

Arum up to his old tricks again...looking to create chaos.

http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/12736671/floyd-mayweather-manny-pacquiao-contract-not-signed


Eleven days before the fight between Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao, an actual contract for the bout to take place at the MGM Grand still has not been signed.

Top Rank promoter Bob Arum told ESPN.com on Tuesday that he wasn't signing the contract that he received a draft of on April 15 because it wasn't what he agreed to when the MGM, Mayweather Promotions and he signed the term sheet a couple months ago.

"We agreed that we would all be signatories on the final contract and then they sent us a draft of the agreement and it excluded us," said Arum, who promotes Pacquiao.

Not being a signatory to the contract means that Top Rank wouldn't have control of decisions during the fight, including in-arena production, video content and music.

"They don't want us to have any say," Arum said. "So whether they came up with the deal between Mayweather and MGM before or after our agreement, they've committed fraud either way. That's what we're enmeshed in."

 

No shit, Shane and Tszyu especially didn't want any part of Floyd. A gold medal would've raised his profile in the pros significantly and made it impossible for those guys to avoid him earlier on.

some brilliant insights in this thread, such as:

"ahbfha [38 year old] Floyd has teh problems wif [165 lb, 8 years younger] Madonna"

"Hahahahbahaha Floyd [130 lb champion who fought 154 lb fights weighing 148 against guys who came in at 170] loses to Hearns [a huge, ATG welterweight who went all the way to cruiser] coz he is teh suckszx"

"Floyd not as grate as Sugary Lenard coz in 1980 he stays at 135 like a bich " [like how SRL stayed at 147 and 'retired' rather than move up to fight Hagler until Hagler was past his prime]

 

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You are like some sort of inverted parasite. You live in Floyds anus and HE feeds off YOU.

 

does Floyd ever have cameo's in tv shows or appear in advertisements or anything?

I don't think he'll be in demand 5 years after he retires...he's not attractive or popular

 

Don't say things like that, you will scare Neil.

 

The answer to your question is "no."

He was on Dancing with the Stars after the De La Hoya fight (2007) and was in a commercial or two for AT&T years ago but was dropped after getting charged with domestic violence which he ultimately pled down to and went to jail for.

I'm pretty sure he had a deal with Addidas after the DLH fight and that went to shit as well.


"Like I said before" his marketability in terms of sponsorship and likeability is zero.

 

Yeah, there's been plenty of athletes in history who were assholes, yet likable because of how charismatic they were.

Floyd is unlikable AND has no charisma.

The reason people sympathize with Tyson, in my opinion, is that Mike came from literally NOTHING and then overnight was the most famous, and wealthy athlete on the planet. He was fuckin 20-22 years old, and had no real mentor to guide him, of course he was gonna make stupid decisions.

Floyd wasn't raised in the gutter like Tyson, and his stupid ass is damn near 40 years old still showing off his cash like he's 19.

He's a fuckin buffoon and a coon!

IF he were to go broke, it'd be the most epic money fail in history.

 

2 years after he retires I bet Floyd won't even be able to score a cameo on Mad TV

 

Floyd is pushing 40. He has no political aspect, a la Ali. He has no physical aspect a la Mike. He can't even fucking read.

Mike is a rapist and lunatic and he has people eating out of his hand.

Floyd probably had good cause to slap his bitch and he came out of it with NO CREDIT.

He;s just a PR disaster.

Throw in questionable levels of literacy and numeracy, dubious spending habits.......the scene is set for Floyd to Flop

 

his net worth is 280million right? after this fight it will go to 350million, correct?

so all he needs to do is try to limit spending to 20k per day :scratcher: poor bastard

 

Yep.

Mike at heart I've always believed was a good guy who was basically with the wrong crowd for most of his life. And it seems a lot of other people believe that too.

Floyd's schtick is just old and tired. He needs to change the record. He doesn't seem to realize that it just makes him unlikable.

The problem with Floyd is that he lacks AUTHENTICITY. You can tell he's TRYING to play a role and portray an image, and it just comes off really bad.

At least when Prince Naseem talked shit, it was witty, it was funny, he would make people laugh, and you could always tell it was all tongue in cheek with him.

Ali was charismatic, witty, and funny as hell too. Even though word is that he was a real life asshole too, at least he had the personality to pull off the show.

Floyd is just a wannabe and comes off like a dick.

 

Mike always seemed a bit "Lost"...surrounded by utter sharks from a very young age.

Floyd had his Uncles when his dad was in the tin-can.

He was also insulated by the US Amateur programme.

Ok, he had the horror of those "Slave Wages" they put him on ::

 

Hamed turned nasty at the end and showed his true colours. He was also stripped of his MBE because he broke a guy up into shit in a car smash, refused to say sorry and then said "well at least nobody died". He did jail time for that.

Fuck Hamed.

 

Hamed kind of SEEMED tongue in cheek at the time, but I always got the impression he was ultimately just a little cunt. I didn't find him likeable at all.

I agree the main problem with Floyd's schtick is it's all so contrived and fake, or at least that's how it seems, very try hard.

 

Floyd is the reason the Mosley fight didn't happened at 135, not the other way around. And both Cassamayor and Freitas were repeatedly calling him out, he's the one who seemed uninterested (though the networks probably wouldn't have let it happened either way).

 

He had everybody fooled for a while. The Barrera fight buildup and the subsequent jail time exposed him. Now he is just a sad fat cunt.

 

Hamed is a dirtbag in real life too. I thought a lot of it was just for image and show, but he almost killed someone while driving recklessly and then left the guy there to die. With Ali, I've read and heard many different stories of him being really generous and kind and also being a real jerk.

As much as I like Tyson, my favorite fighter ever, well he's done some awful things and I believe it when people say he has a lot of con-artist/manipulative traits in him. He had a horrible childhood, but so do a lot of dangerous criminals out there who do awful things that everyone (including me) will say are scum. They don't throw the most beautiful right hook to the body, right uppercut to the head combination or have documentaries to humanize them. I'd like to think that Tyson was wrongly convicted of rape, but my guess is that even if he was, he committed that same crime on other occasions. On females and possible males (while locked up).

Tyson is an extremely charismatic and interesting figure though that is much easier to root for than an annoying clown like Floyd.

Floyd is better than 99% of boxers who ever laced them up, better than his father and uncles at boxing, has had an enormously successful and lucrative HOF career, and acts like he wants to be a gangster. Then he went crying to Bob Arum when he pissed off a gangster in James Prince.

 

To be fair to Floyd, those two were Showtime fighters and Floyd was with HBO. I don't hold Floyd responsible for neither of those fights happening.

The networks kept those matchups from happening.

 

That's true, but what about Mosley?

 

I think that was just timing, Floyd became champ at 130 in October 98', that's only a few months before Mosley left 135 for good to go to 147. Sometimes you can make fights happen in that short time period, but look at how often fights just don't materialize due to timing and guys moving up in weight.

Then in 2006, Shane had his "dentist appointment", aka "the cross-dressing Oscar is the boss and he gets to fight Floyd first".

 

In fairness to Hamed, he handled the defeat to MAB with far more humility than I expected from him

 

That's another myth as well. Bullshit Floyd claimed prior to his fight with Mosley...said some stupid shit like "I been trying to fight you for 10 years."

Floyd's first fight at 135 was in 2002 against Castillo. He was barely a year removed from the Corrales fight at 130 in 2001. Mosley moved to 147 in 1999 and skipped 140. He fought Oscar the first time in 2000.

Shane had his first fight at 147 around the time Mayweather was just getting to Justin Juuko.

So Floyd hadn't fought Corrales, hadn't fought Castillo and hadn't fought at 135.

So yeah...Shane ducked him.

Floyd was also saying he'd fight Hamed at 128. Let's blame Hamed for that fight not happening as well.

 

Yeah I think you're right.

I'm sure Floyd would have been prepared to face all 3 of those guys, he became a cherry picking bitch after Castillo really.

 

I seem to remember at the time, their weights/timelines never really crossed, and there was never even any talks of them fighting.

 

I'm not sure humility is the right word, more weirdness. Like a journeyman, he was happy just to go the distance. Then the loss ruined him, and he retired, the hype train was over and he'd been exposed.

 

I'll simplify it...Mosley was champion at 147 before Floyd had fought at 135. But Shane ducked him if you ask FloydIdiots.

Got it.

 

:bears:

 

mayweather jr nor mosley were a draw in the late 90s and a fight simply didnt make much sense for either financially. now if mayweather jr had came into the game with a gold medal around his neck it is more likely he wouldve been a household name sooner

 

With his personality it would have turned him into an asshole sooner.

 

so then he'd have gotten to this current status sooner