Floyd Mayweather vs John Mugabi at 154lbs

Lol exactly

 

Pretty much.

Mayweather is obviously the better fighter p4p, but straight up at 154 is a different story.

 

If Mayweather has yet to be knocked out...and yet to even be close to being stopped, how can people say with such certainty that Mugabi would knock him out? . What is it based on? What Mugabi knocking out Frank the animal Flecher?

What makes you think Mugabi even catches Floyd? What makes you think Floyd doesn't hurt Mugabi with punches (especially to the body)? man o man....arguing with you fellas is like arguing with retards sometimes. You have all this stuff in your head but it is based not on reality.

 

Mayweather hasn't fought anyone half as powerful as Mugabi

 

how about Mugabi vs Golovkin?

 

So? That doesn't mean Mugabi would knock him out. Before Hagler or Leonard fought Hearns neither faced anyone as powerful as Hearns. Based on your stoooooooooopid logic hearns should have knocked out both of them (ONE MILLION other examples of this).

Floyd has a chin...and chin nullifies a punch. Besides, defense nullifies power...as you know cdoggy dogg dog. You can't hurt what you can't hit...and might I add....motherfucker!

 

:: I am a fan of Floyd and thinks he gets a lot of undeserved hate on here, but I can't hang with this

 

Hagler hit a fuck of a lot harder than Floyd, and Chop Chop Corley & Shane Mosley probably don't hit as hard as Mugabi. The guy's power was legit.

 

"Reality" is, Floyd was Legitimately HURT by the Likes of Corley and Sugar Shane, Buzzed by Zab, While Being As Big or BIGGER than those Men...

Mugabi's a LOT Bigger than Floyd, a LOT Stronger than Floyd & Aggressive as Hell...To Date, Floyd's Fought 2 FINESSE Fighters @ '54...Mugabi's a Guy whose Power, Strength & Aggression FOLLOWED him to Middleweight...Literally, REED Doubts Mugabi Could Even SPELL "Finesse"...

More Importantly, Even as Good as he Is Defensively, Floyd Gets HIT...A Past Prime Dela Landed Shots, Ricky Hatton Landed Shots...Floyd's NOT Going to Fight @ Length w/a Guy as Aggressive as Mugabi, w/Out Getting Touched @ All; he's NOT Susan Storm and this Ain't the Fantastic 4, Homey...If/When Mugabi Caught Floyd Along the Ropes & Floyd Offered Up his Shoulder, it'd Be THE Hardest Punch he's Ever Been Hit w/...

Just For Floyd to Survive, it'd Have to Be THE LEAST Entertaining Bout of All Times...LITERALLY, Floyd would have to RUN Around the Ring, Never 1nce Standing his Ground to Exchange...Mugabi would have No Fear Whatsoever of the Incoming, Because there Wouldn't Be Any...

Ask Marvin Hagler how HARD Mugabi...That's "Reality"...




REED:hammert:

 

I think I'd favor gay no but the beast would be his best foe yet

 

Why are you trying to reason with a floyd fan? You should know it's pointless.

 

Mugabi's size difference re Floyd is irrelevant, considering he was teh same height. It would be relevant if Floyd was a brawler and would slug it out with him, but seeing that floyd would box him I don't see why his natural size advantage would be a factor. And sure..Floyd's not Sue Storm, but he's faaaaaaaaaaar more elusive than anyone Mugabi has faced. Mugabi was from teh orthodox stance and used to wing huge haymakers all the time (from my recollection)...and I just don't see how they get past the shoulder roll.

Plus you're assuming that Mugabi would be as dangerous in the late rounds as he would be in the early rounds. I don't think so, considering he'll be tiring himself hitting air early and getting teh odd jabs in his belly and counterpucnhes along teh way which will slow him down.

people are grossly underestimating Mayweather if they think a mad slugging ugandan beast would have beaten him. Don't y'all know ANYTHING about boxing history? Fighters like Mugabi ALWAYS lose to fighters like Mayweather. ALWAYS. Virtuoso master boxers ALWAYS beat powerpunching sluggers.

 

I don't agree with D&M completely, but I do think Floyd is being undersold here. Mainly two points:

1) People make conclusion that since Hatton and Mosley could hit Floyd and Mugabi would find his distance better than them and hit harder, logically he hits Floyd more often and knocks him out. The thing is however, Floyd is a very intelligent fighter and can vary his style. In the Mosley fight, Floyd kept his left hand low early and Mosley's speed surprised him. After that, Floyd lift his left glove up and Mosley never landed another punch. As for the Hatton fight, I think he could have moved much more if necessary, but he was the stronger man and could take Hatton on inside too. Against Mugabi, surely he wouldn't take this risk, he would be more safety-first.

2) D&M made a good point about Floyd never being actually knocked down, He has been wobbled, but he has recovered very well from these situations and he seems to be very difficult to knock out, and there is a big difference between these two. Lennox should have KOed Mavrovic with all the free shots he got, Tyson should have KOed Tillis etc. Since Floyd has never been knocked out, you can't be sure that some guy, even as good as Mugabi, would do it.

I would pick Floyd by a boring safety-first decision

 

Ugo - you make some good points. But re: #2, your analogy would be apt if Mavrovic had been wobbled by say, Henry Maske, prior to fighting Lennox Lewis. If Corley and Shane can wobble Floyd, it's reasonable to assume Mugabi would put him on a stretcher. Maybe a young, prime Floyd could stay away and beat him, but a young, prime Floyd didn't fight at 154 lbs.

Again, Floyd is obviously the better fighter, but there are weight classes for a reason.

 

Mugabi was pretty crude. I'd be less certain about him beating Floyd than say, Jackson, who was a devestating puncher who had good technique and skills.

Having said that, Mugabi didn't give a fuck and had no problem winging away taking a few to land his bombs.

I'd have to believe he catches Floyd with something that rocks Floyd's world at some point.

 

Now this is what I'm talking about. This is my point exactly. Mugabi was crude. He pretty much just threw haymakers. You're not catching Philly Shell, shoulder roll, fast reflex Floyd with wild haymakers. Younger Floyd, that is. Also Floyd hits hard enough to keep even Mugabi honest. Floyd isn't pillow fisted the way guys like Skip Bayless like to say. Ask Shane how hard Floyd hits. Shane admits that Floyd's punches are troubling.

My point is..Mugabi will come out swinging...but after missing a few times and getting stung by counters....he'll swing less and less as the fight goes on. Anyway...how can anyone, that is a student of the game....suggest that a crude banger like Mugabi would beat a Master boxer the same height as him? I thought guys n this site knew the game. Disappointing.

 

Lol same height... Maybe on paper ... Mugabi was bigger than Marvin Hagler in the ring

 

Mugabi would just be hitting Floyd non stop. This isn;t fucking Ortiz or Maidana.

The Parker KO was so brutal that youtube won't host it.

 

Floyd was decked by Judah. Why do people deny this still.....

 

Agree... Ref blew the call

 

The guy was serious business at that time

 

Sure, but I don't think it tells that much about how vulnerable Floyd is to be knocked out since it was a glove-touch KD

 

Watch the fight again. Hagler was SIGNIFICANTLY bigger than Mugabi in the ring. And Hagler wasn't a huge Middeweight. I've watched that fight many times. I know.

 

No one denies this....not even a Floyd "nuthugger" like me. It was clear that his glove touched the canvas as the result of a punch. As UGO said, it was a flash KD, meaningless in the grand scheme of things. If He was really that hurt Zab would have pummelled him (Zab's a good finisher).

 

No he wasn't

 

cdogg is right, the height listing is bogus.

As per usual, Hagler is "bigger", stockier, but Mugabi is clearly taller. No fucking way is he 5'8 https://youtu.be/ttRrZZAwAZ0?t=3m14s

 

FUCK...you're a stubborn Irishman.

Hagler is taller and bigger in that fight. Clearly.

I just googled it and picked a random image. Look

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/-SSadRS1eWQ/hqdefault.jpg

 

I dunno...during the staredown the angle of the camera made it appear as though Mugabi was taller but once they start fighting Hagler looks clearly taller and bigger. look at round 6

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23K7d5SWrPM

Also Terry Norris is 5'9" and he is clearly taller than Mugabi in their fight.

 

Sly, the thing is, comparing during the fight is tricky, I don't need to tell you certain fighters fight more crouched than others etc. And at any point in the fight, one fighter can be more crouched than the other.

The staredown is really the fairest height comparison there is.

To me Hagler looks beefier, Mugabi looks taller, overall they look a similar size.

Even in that round 6 you posted, in the odd shot where Mugabi is standing up straight, he looks taller.

 

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