Who will be the P4P #1 in 3 years?

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  1. Muzse

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    I'm not sold on Mayweather beating Tszyu. Tszyu was a damn good boxer and what made him special (despite his short reach) was his timing. He wouldn't have caught Floyd like he caught Judah, but once he did he would have hurt Floyd.

    Tszyu had a lethal and precise straight right hand which I think would have touched Floyd more than people think. Based on how Floyd dealt with Castillo, I don't think he would have spent much if any time trading with Kostya (like Phillips did).

    Shame it didn't happen but that was a network issue not a fighter issue.
     
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  2. valdosta

    valdosta Undisputed Champion

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    Please, Floyd would have beaten Tszyu easily. 9-3,10-2 type decision. Tszyu is 1 of the most overrated fighters of all time.
     
    valdosta, May 17, 2015
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  3. steve_dave

    steve_dave Hard As Fuck

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    Tszyu was excellent and is extremely underrated these days.

    Floyd beats him. That's not an insult.
     
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  4. Dog Jones

    Dog Jones WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Floyd would have pulled a Cool Vince on Tszyu
     
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    mexican wedding shirt The Greatest of Are Times

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    Tszyu is indeed one of the most overrated fighters of all time. His best win is Judah FFS, and he couldn't even beat Hatton.

    Floyd beats him easily, any weight, the idea of Tszyu beating Floyd is laughable.
     
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  6. Irish

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    "Rios beats Tszyu" - MWS.

    Rios would be doing a very very good Freddie Roach impression if he ever went near Tszyu.
     
    Irish, May 17, 2015
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    Tszyu would given Floyd a very tough fight
     
    cdogg187, May 17, 2015
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  8. Neil

    Neil tueur de grenouilles

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    Tszyu would have knocked Mayweather jr out
     
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  9. steve_dave

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    Masterclass.

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    Most of what I've said about Tszyu is 100% genuine and true, but that was exaggerating for comic effect, just to live up to my Tszyu hating persona.

    Floyd would clown Tszyu though, no doubt, he'd be lucky to win a round.

    Best win = Judah, and got beat up and quit against Cool Vince and Hatton :lol:
     
    mexican wedding shirt, May 17, 2015
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    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    Schooling..
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    I think so too, but he would have lost.

    Zoo closed distance much faster than most people realised, had great timing, decent power and never really lost to a "boxer" - but Floyd is such a good boxer he would have found a way to avoid most of Zoo's attacks and countered enough to get the decision.

    Zoo would give Floyd enough time and space to think and react.
     
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  13. Punk

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    :nono: It's MAG.
     
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  14. Neil

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    Roman gonzalez is the correct answer
     
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    Ex-fucking-actly.

    Tszyu is a 5'6 short armed counterpuncher, the exact style that Floyd feasts on. He would control Tszyu easily, win almost every round, and Tszyu would not take the risks necessary to win.

    Thinking Tszyu would beat Floyd is straight up mental, it's what I'd expect from someone who'd seen Tszyu - Judah, and maybe 1 Floyd fight.
     
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  16. Xplosive

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    Tszyu would not actually beat Floyd. At best, he wins 4 rounds. Tszyu was an EXCELLENT fighter, and is underrated, but he lacked a certain intangible quality to beat a truly GREAT fighter like Chavez, Pryor, Floyd, Whitaker, ect.

    Floyd is a piece of shit, and he damn sure isn't TBE, but he IS an all time great. In his 05 peak, he'd have beaten any version of Tszyu. But Tszyu would give him a good fight.
     
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  17. Irish

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    The pfp fighter in a few years will be whoever the TV guys anoint.
     
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  18. mikE

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    Kostya could counter punch, but he was more comfortable moving forward and imposing his strength on guys.

    Kostya would have come in over 10 lbs heavier than Floyd at fight time, assuming a prime 140 matchup. Whatever Castillo was able to do against Floyd, Kostya figured to do more. The two guys who beat Kostya did it in a way that Floyd could not. The confidence people have picking Floyd is similar to the confidence they had in Judah.

    But, I don't have a problem with a Floyd pick. Tszyu was a big-time underachiever and Floyd has always been a careful match-maker. They are both responsible for us having to imagine how their fight would go down instead of know. The best fight for supporting a Floyd win is the Hatton fight, but there are several reasons that fight is flawed as support.
     
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  20. Xplosive

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    Tszyu has no shot in Holy Hell at beating a prime Chavez.
     
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    Tszyu is not a pressure fighter, he fights nothing like Castillo.

    At best he's an aggressive counterpuncher, in the Marquez/Golovkin mould.
     
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    So I guess Marciano beats a prime Louis then............
     
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    mcBride beats a prime Tyson
     
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  25. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

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    Danny Green beats a prime Jones.

    Norris beats a prime Leonard

    Morrison beats a prime Foreman
     
    Xplosive, May 18, 2015
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    X taking everything all literally today.
     
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    Fixed. :bears:
     
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    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

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    Okay, Kid Dynamite.
     
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    This kid.....

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    GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE!!

    Are we talking about the same Vasyl Lomachenko who has fought only 5 times since his debut on 2013 and got spanked by geriatric Orlando Salido last year?? :l2:
     
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