Amir Khan vs. prime Shane Mosley

I'd like for Floyd nut lickers to explain to me how Floyd "owns" Oscar prime-for-prime, when a PEAK Floyd in 07 couldn't "own" a washed up Hoya?

Baffles my mind...

 

Well I don't even like Floyd but he won comfortably, about 9-3.

 

He won but unimpressively against a guy who was well beyond his peak years... The idea that Floyd "owns" him based on that 2007 fight is outrageous nuthugging of Slystaff proportions

 

Mosley needs to be "off rhythm" and "let his body do the work." Or something like that.

 

9-3? That's absurd. He arguably lost.

 

No he didn't.

 

There's no way on earth he lost

 

Obviously he didn't lose, but I do find the 9-3 score kind of absurd too.

I've only seen the fight once, it was boring, never bothered to rewatch it - but I think I had Floyd 7-5.

 

Anywhere from 7-5 to 9-3 Floyd is probably reasonable.

 

Floyd has certainly had closer fights Vs Castillo, Maidana, and Cotto.

 

The Cotto fight wasn't close at all. Cotto did more damage, but Oscar probably won more rounds.

 

I thought Cotto was the closest fight since Castillo. His performance is underrated. His homeless man's Duran impersation did surprisingly well, bullied Floyd to the ropes, landed a lot of bodyshots etc. I thought the Cotto fight was legimately close.

 

Cotto looked fantastic in the rounds he won, but I have a tough time actually giving him more than 3 rounds. Being generous, 4, but that's the absolute maximum.

 

7-5 in a fight with as many close rounds as there were, it's not obvious he didn't lose.

It may not have been a controversial decision and it was one the majority of viewers agree with. But as we know, there's lots of examples of decisions in close fights which go against the concensus (not talking about corrupt decisions).

 

Id be really struggling to find 5 rounds to give either cotto or Oscar. Floyd-Cotto's pretty much your classic 'competitive but not close' fight. I think I ended up scoring the Guererro fight closer, in fact

 

That's weird, I thought Guerrero only won 1 or 2 rounds.

The thing with Floyd is I think he gets a bit too much credit for a lot of fights, and a lot of scores.

I said this before, but it's because Floyd LOOKS so good in the ring. He does everything perfectly and correctly, and his defense is so fucking good, he tends to make opponents look silly even in rounds they win.

 

I'm with Hut on this apart from the Guerrero part, wtf? He got schooled, I'd struggle to give him three rounds.

 

Yeah I'd agree with this

 

Agreed with this. Cotto did better than expected and gave it a good effort but won no more than three rounds. It was bit like DLH-Chavez II in a sense: it was a rather close fight where one guy just didn't win any rounds.

I agree with Mex though that Floyd makes everybody look bad even when they have success. I thought that Canelo might have won 3-4 rounds against Floyd too since in them Floyd did nothing, but he still was outclassed, more so than Cotto who won less rounds

 

Amir Khan MM Threads....where Khan being beaten up is so blindingly obvious that nobody talks about him. ::

 

I remember having hopes for Kahn

He is a joke IMO
It makes me laugh when he says " I put on a master class" ::

He is a guy who EVERY TIME he fights he looks like he is on the verge of getting stretched

 

Cotto did much better than Oscar or Guerrero imo. He gave Floyd a tough fight. Cotto's always been very good at fighting pure boxers/movers.

 

Cotto needed low blows to unsettle Judah, FFS.

 

If i remember right i had Floyd-Guererro 9-3 and Floyd Cotto something like 9-2-1.

 

I'd agree he gave Floyd a good fight - i had the final score wide but that didnt reflect a fight in which nearly every round was competitive. I thought Guererro did really well in a few rounds of the first half of their fight then Floyd totally dominated the second half

 

I don't even remember how I scored the Mayweather-Cotto fight but there are other examples of that. Often times fights are a lot more competitive than what will show on the scorecards. One guy can be doing a lot of really good work but his opponent is still edging the rounds. Then when a wider than anticipated scorecard is announced there will be ootrage. "It was way closer than that, the judges are blind!" They might be right that the fight overall was close, but it doesn't necessarily mean the cards were so much off.

It doesn't help that judges rarely ever score even rounds but that's a whole other ball of wax for different thread and doesn't necessarily pertain to this matchup.