Which of the following punchers does 92 Bowe have the best chance against?

Discussion in 'Mythical Matchups' started by Xplosive, Jun 12, 2015.

  1. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    So if you're on the same page as me, let's all agree that Foreman, Tyson, and Lewis are the three best punchers in heavyweight history. Which of the following would a prime Bowe have the best chance against?

    If we're talking about the 73-74 Foreman, the 86-88 Tyson, and the 97-00 Lewis.
     
  2. ILLUMINATI

    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

    Lewis because of his questionable CHIN...

    Bowe has no shot against FOreman 73-74....and only marginal chance against 86-88 Tyson...in the later rounds.
     
  3. Double L

    Double L Book Reader

    I agree. I'd pick all three to beat Bowe, but Bowe's best chance is against Lewis because of his chin.
     
  4. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    Another thing I was thinking about. I know we always consider the Bowe of the first Holy fight to THE best version of Bowe. But you could make an argument that the best version of Bowe was against Gonzalez.
     
  5. whiskey

    whiskey Czarcasm

    Maybe, but isn't it a bit convenient to say the best "versions" of Bowe were in fights he won?
     
  6. Ugotabe Kidding

    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    I'd say his best chance is against Foreman. Lewis' chin isn't as bad as the myth has it, whereas young Foreman had the clearest weakness (stamina) and he relied most on one strategy, which was to overpower his opponents, plus Foreman could be hurt.

    Foreman would be the favorite, but Bowe could be able to hurt him and stay in the battle with his better technique for eight rounds, after which Foreman would be gassed. I can't see Bowe surviving Tyson's early outslaught nor being able to box with Lewis
     
  7. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    I would agree that his best chance is with Foreman.
     
  8. Neil

    Neil tueur de grenouilles

    :lol: he won all his fights except one. That's what's up!

    Bowe
     
  9. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

    Lewis but I wouldn't bet on him
     
  10. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

    I think they all beat Bowe. He probably has the best chance against Foreman.
     
  11. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    I agree. I think they all stop Bowe within 6. Was just asking who's Bowe have the best outside shot against.
     
  12. puerto rock

    puerto rock WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    I think against Foreman, if he can get out of the early rounds.

    Lennox is too smart for him. Young Mike was too fast and powerful. And I would pick Foreman against him, but the styles would make it entertaining.

    Frazier vs Bowe now would be a CLASSIC.
     
  13. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

    Frazier/Bowe is a guaranteed classic bout, as is Frazier/Holyfield
     
  14. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    I would give Bowe a better chance at beating Liston than at beating Lewis, Tyson, Foreman.
     
  15. puerto rock

    puerto rock WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    How does Vitali do against them?
     
  16. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    Washed up/fat Lewis stopped Vitali. So obviously prime/in-shape Lewis would stop him.

    Prime versions of Tyson and Foreman both stop Vitali.

    And bringing Bowe into the discussion, the 92 Bowe stops Vitali as well.

    Objectively speaking, out of all those guys I think his best chance is against a prime Foreman.

    I think prime Tyson and prime Bowe would be entirely all wrong for Vitali, for different reasons.
     
    Last edited: Jun 13, 2015
  17. Please....Bowe vs Frazier would look like Bowe vs Bert Cooper, but I digress......

    I agree with the consensus that Bowe's best shot would be against Foreman but that he loses to all three.

    I pick Foreman for two reasons:

    1. His stamina was suspect and relied on getting to his opponents early.
    2. His opponents were usually smaller than him. Bowe is not.
     
  18. Disagree.

    Vitali would have stopped Bowe. Lewis only stopped Vatli because of a cut. A cut can happen to anyone. Vitali would take Bowe's punches but Bowe wouldn't handle Vitali's for too long. People forget that Golota was fucking Bowe up twice (yeah yeah...bowe was washed up blah blah)..and a virus ridden Holyfield knocked Bowe down HARD and only failed to stop him because he was sick that night. I will also forever maintain that had fanman not fucked up that second fight...Evander would have stopped him then also.
     
    Last edited: Jun 13, 2015
  19. Getthefuckouttahere!

    You along with everyone else has been saying that Frazier beats Marciano based primarily on the logic of size difference. Well, the size difference between Bowe and Frazier is SIGNIFICANTLY greater than than of Frazier Marciano. Bowe had to sweat down to be even 235lbs...he was a natural 250lbs monster. Frazier was 205lbs. not to mention the height and reach advantage too. Frazier comes in low...Bowe's best punches are his uppercuts...atg jab as well. Bowe absolutely fucks Frazier up. Fucks him up Fucks him up Fucks him up Fucks him up Fucks him up Fucks him up!!!!!!!!
     
  20. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

    Frazier was no smaller than Holyfield.
     
  21. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

    And a tad better than Bert Cooper
     
  22. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

    Sly has the strange habit of reducing the two guys (Frazier and Norton) who gave his second favorite fighter (Ali) his hardest fights into chinless club fighter midgets who might be able to beat Joe Hipp. It is pointless discussing either fighter with him
     
  23. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

    Weirdly, he turns Floyd's shitty opponents into all-time killers
     
  24. mexican wedding shirt

    mexican wedding shirt The Greatest of Are Times

    cdogg, I was thinking the exact same thing - that it doesn't really say much for Ali that guys who beat him are borderline scrubs.

    I didn't think of the contrast with Floyd, but you're right, it's the exact opposite there :lol:
     
  25. Irish

    Irish Yuge, Beautiful

    Agreed..............Foreman could gas.
     
  26. puerto rock

    puerto rock WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    I tend to think Frazier is better than Bert Cooper. Higher class fighter. I think it's a competitive war that comes down to the late rounds.

    Can't see either guy having an easy time with the other.
     
  27. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    Bowe ain't fuckin up Frazier. He was nowhere near as powerful as George.
     
  28. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

    I've never understood it:lol:
     
  29. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

    Don't you get it, X? Smokin' Joe was 5'7, 175 pounds and an Uncle Tom
     
  30. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    Frazier have the losses! Frazier have a blueprint! Frazier die broke! Frazier aint die with no $300!

    -Sly
     

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