UFC 190 - ROUSEY vs. CORREIA

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  1. Buddy Rydell

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    Rousey is not exactly bone-dry at 135. She should gain weight to fight a chemically-enhanced opponent? If Cyborg wants to fight the champ, she should make weight.
     
  2. Anthony

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    Well i knew you were a casual fan, but i didnt want to say that. But Tate has been around a while and she was the Strikeforce Champ before losing the belt to Ronda. Before rousey, there was no woman's MMA in the UFC.
     
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    Cyborg's clinch game is very good man.
     
  4. His_Royness

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    Rousey wouldn't employ the same game plan against Cyborg. She knew she had nothing to fear from Correia and she has impressive power. Her defense leaves something to be desired of course but. Cyborg would be a test. Tate with her improved striking not so much. I ain't even sure, she would win a pure boxing match against Rousey.
     
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    And just like Tyson when she faces someone who isn't afraid, will stand her ground and punch her in the mouth she will fall apart. That person is NOT Miesha Tate.

    Much like my comparing Tate to Razor Rudduck, she can also be compared to Frank Bruno. When Tyson needed a title fresh out of prison, Bruno was there to take a beating and give his up.
     
  6. Buddy Rydell

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    It does make you wonder: is there anyone out there who can extend Rousey besides a Brazilian drug cheat who expects the champion to move up in weight? Maybe that kickboxer chick who beat Cyborg? She was bigger-framed though, so unlikely to make it to 135.
     
  7. Anthony

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    You keep calling her chemically enhanced. It's been a while since she was caught and has since been under Zuffa contract, so she is getting tested and still knocking bitches out just like Ronda. And many people are calling for a 145 division in MMA. And Like i said before, the fight does not have to be for the 135 belt. it can be just a fight and if that's the case, ronda can meet here in the middle. Clearly the two baddest bitches in MMA should settle it. And if Ronda is willing to go up to 150 to fight Carano and possibly higher to fight Ali, surely, she can go up 5 pounds to fight arguably the most dominant WMMA fighter out there.
     
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    She is also a kickboxer who would get wrecked in MMA against cyborg.
     
  9. Buddy Rydell

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    I keep calling her chemically enhanced because she is chemically enhanced. Would she look so manly if she wasn't roiding until she got caught? Probably not. When someone gains a chemical advantage from taking steroids, as she was doing, the advantage doesn't completely go away when they stop taking drugs. Did East German track athletes turn back into women when they stopped roiding? No, they remained hairy, manly-looking drug cheats, a hybrid of drugs and woman. That's what Cyborg is.

    My guess is that the fight will happen eventually. Yes, it's been a while since Cyborg got caught, but expecting someone to move up in weight to fight you when you've been nailed for taking steroids is a bad joke, and if Rousey jumped through that hoop, the joke would be on her. Hagler was best at 160. Did he move up when it was clear that it was his best weight? No, he established a benchmark for middleweight greatness that others pursued and he was right to do so. Him moving up to fight a steroid-enhanced opponent would have tarnished his legacy and it would have been a really stupid move on his part.

    Cyborg the most dominant WMMA fighter out there? So is Rousey, but moving up in weight to fight a drug cheat plays into that drug cheat's hands.
     
  10. Anthony

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    Come on man. You think this is all natural?

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    Your body may not be different when you get off, but your power is. And she is still knocking people out. Since being called out, how many people has Pac knocked out.

    Again, you keep talking about 135 belt. Im not talking about the belt. Cyborg could give a fuck about the belt. It's about the fight. Who is the best. Cyborg's best weight is at 145. Ronda's is a 135. Cyborg would be at a disadvantage going all the way down and ronda would going up. Meet in the middle. No reason for one fighter to have an advantage over the other, especially when they are not fighting for a belt.

    Never understood the thought behind people wanting Cyborg to be a completely drained weak fighter in order to have a fight with Rousey. She kills herself to make 145.
     
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    Who did Cyborg beat exactly to make this a catch weight "super fight" ???
     
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    Carano, Coenen? Who did Ronda beat? It's fucking women's MMA...
     
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    The best WMMA fighter in the world at the time. Cyborg has a been a champ longer than Rousey and has dominated longer. There would be no ronda in wmma without these two women here.


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    Holy fuck I swear Cyborg looks like Wanderlei in drag.
     
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    She is a big girl. she cuts down from 175
     
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    What does that have to do with her looking like a man?
     
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    Plus that KO of Correia looked like a quit job to me. Ronda is an awful striker, and that punch that finished the job looked like garbage. Female Mike Tyson lol. More like Royce Gracie among UFC 1 competition. These 135 pound women, have no skill, no will, no power, no anything. Ronda is very lucky.
     
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    Ronda is in the right place at the right time. But she is doing what she needs to do. And thanks to her, more woman are joining MMA and they will be much more skilled. Carano/Cyborg were Pioneers, but the exposure was limited. The UFC got Ronda exposure and her domination resonates with people.

    But i promise you this. If Cyborg didnt look like a man, there would be a 145 division in the UFC>
     
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    Oh for sure. I mean if Cyborg looked like the Cyborg from Ex Machina, and not the Terminator she'd be in the UFC long time ago
     
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    Cyborg standing next to 145 frankie Edgar. But they want this bitch to go to 135? Shit.



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    btw, anyone else thing bethe looks worse than cyborg?
     
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    She looks bad but not worse. They both look like garbage, but one is more the regular kind,and one the better, recycable kind.
     
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    she looks like Javier Bardem


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    He's pretty handsome though
     
  26. Trplsec

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    It's pretty simple to me. If Cyborg can't get off the juice and drop to 135 pounds then she just doesn't get a slice of the Ronda Rousey money pie.

    If she can't then it really doesn't hurt the UFC or Rousey. They can continue to make bank regardless of who Rousey is matched against.

    145 pounds for women is a wasteland. There is zero talent. The Invicta 145 lb. roster is wading pool shallow. The UFC absolutely does not need a 145 pound division. There is no reason whatsoever.
     
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    Juice aint hold her back. She is being tested regularly. She just cant make the weight. Her next fight will be at 140, so we will see. That being said, 135 was a wasteland too. There are many girls at 135 who might feel like jumping to 145, plus you can have a TUF woman again, like they did for Ronda. Most people are calling for a 145 division.

    Also, Ronda has said she feels the strongest and healthiest at 150.
     
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    I think an argument could be made for a catchweight fight if it wasn't already proven that Cyborg's size and dominance is the result of PEDs.


    Where there's smoke there's fire. For years Cyborg's manly appearance and strength was the smoke. The positive drug test just proved there was fire behind the smoke.


    I call her a dominant fighter the same way I would call Bonds the best slugger in baseball history, with a huge asterisk that screams bullshit.

    The cheater should not be rewarded. If she wants Ronda's success, then beat her cleanly at 135.
     
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    She is trying to go down in weight. I just find it hilarious people want her to right Ronda at 135, knowing full well that she will be completely drained and weak.

    Why wouldnt they want to know who truly is the best?

    Confuses the fuck out of me.
     
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    If Cormier can make 205 years after dying trying to make 212 and fighting in the 220's, then Cyborg can make 135.

    However, that picture next to Frankie means I might be wrong. Holy shit does she look big.

    Trying to argue Cyborg shouldn't be thought of as a juicer. Please. I'm willing to give Ronda the benefit of the doubt, but she does look suspicious. Cyborg looks like the textbook example.
     

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