Round By Round: Miguel Cotto vs. Saul "Canelo" Alvarez

Discussion in 'General Boxing Discussion' started by ILLUMINATI, Nov 19, 2015.

  1. puerto rock

    puerto rock WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    IMO they won't get past the negotiating table. Canelo's side will DEMAND 155 lbs catch-weight and Triple G will RIGHTFULLY balk at that.
     
  2. whiskey

    whiskey Czarcasm

    And a 90/10 split for starters.
     
  3. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    Canelo's stocky ass probably can't make 155 again.

    Oscar no longer lie and say he's a junior middle.
     
  4. If they make it 157...GGG should take it. That's reasonable IMO...and Canelo should be the one to call the shots. GGGs celebrity is growing but canelo is still the bigger draw.
     
  5. Dog Jones

    Dog Jones WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Cotto will be around for awhile
     
  6. whiskey

    whiskey Czarcasm

    I don't know. Do you think Canelo can make it up that high?
     
  7. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    These catchweights are a fucking joke. No 155, no 157, fight for the Undisputed MIDDLEWEIGHT championship at 160 for Christ sake!
     
  8. Bordon

    Bordon Undisputed Champion

    GGG fucks Canelo up. He's sharp but he's stubby and he doesn't have great power or much of a work rate. He could land here and there in exchanges with GGG but if he can't wobble and old undersized Cotto that doesn't mean a lot.
     
  9. puerto rock

    puerto rock WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    It should be at 160 but Oscar will never allow it.

    Canelo needs to just stop putting on so much weight in between fights.
     
  10. Pascals Wager

    Pascals Wager Undisputed Champion

    This.
    Title fights should never, ever be @ catchweights.
     
  11. Agreed.

    But what's 3 pounds between friends? ;)
     
  12. Wiser 1878

    Wiser 1878 Bridgerweight Champion

    Cotto was wobbled in the last round and Canelo pulled up. I'm not saying he would have stopped him but he recognized there was little time left and no need to risk blitzing him and maybe getting hit in return.
     
  13. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    Cotto was definitely ready to go in the last round. But the huffer and puffer was too winded to go all out and close the show.
     
  14. puerto rock

    puerto rock WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Prime versions of Benitez and Trinidad would have taken out both of these guys tonight.
     
  15. whiskey

    whiskey Czarcasm

    Trinidad yeah, but I don't see Benitez taking out a super-middle/light heavyweight.
     
  16. puerto rock

    puerto rock WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Fair point. But I think Benitez embarrasses Canelo at the very least.
     
  17. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    Haven't you heard the news? Canelo has better reflexes and skills than Benitez, and he has the same handspeed of Leonard...
     
  18. Muzse

    Muzse "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    I hope cotto is somewhere using those titties as ice packs.
     
  19. whiskey

    whiskey Czarcasm

  20. Wiser 1878

    Wiser 1878 Bridgerweight Champion

    Before the fight: 19 out of 29 predictions on fightbeat were for Cotto to win the fight. Five said Cotto by stoppage.

    Canelo beats that ass.

    After the fight:

    Trinidad would have beaten them both.

    Benitez would embarrass Canelo.

    If Bob Foster was still alive and in his prime...

    GGG will DESTROY Canelo...

    Canelo couldn't even wobble and old undersized guy tonight.

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  21. Neil

    Neil tueur de grenouilles

    I will give alvarez credit for blocking most of Cotto's hooks upstairs. He rarely took any flush hooks to the face. That said, he's still the same fighter. Basic and sporadic with his offense, suspect stamina

    If he cut the ring as well as cut weight he'd be a problem
     
  22. Wiser 1878

    Wiser 1878 Bridgerweight Champion

    I guess not everybody can be Guiillermo Rigondeaux.

    :twitch:
     
  23. Punk

    Punk "Twinkle Toes" McJack Staff Member

    I had Cotto by SD, but fair play to Canelo, he was pretty good.

    Not that fucking good though.


    GGG will either put him in his shell for a huge UD loss, or put his lights out.

    The pick is all Canelo's.
     
  24. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    I'll give Canelo this much - he DOES have a very solid chin. At one point Cotto did nail him with the same hook that KO'd Geale, and Ginger didn't budge.

    HOWEVER, getting hit by Golov is a world different than getting hit by Cotto. Golov already took LeMoo's best shots without blinking, and Canelo doesn't have the one-punch power Lemieux has. BUT... he is a lot more skilled than LeMoo, and his chin is much better than LeMoo's.

    He'll still cop a methodical beating though.
     
  25. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    Benitez would indeed box Canelo senseless, but I think Canelo is too durable for him to have stopped.

    Benitez would have sliced Cotto to shreds though. Miggy wouldn't be able to avoid Benitez's right hand lead to save his bisexual life.

    Best all time Rican my ass!
     
  26. Neil

    Neil tueur de grenouilles

    :lol:

    Alvarez woulda lost to the guy who lost to who to the guy who got to lose to a 25 year old rigondeaux
     
  27. Neil

    Neil tueur de grenouilles

    I never saw cotto land major league hooks upstairs. Alvarez is young enough to cut weight well and his 10 to 15 lb advantage helps him take shots. Maybe he got a very good beard but I'm not sold
     
  28. Irish

    Irish Yuge, Beautiful

    I thought the cards were a disgrace to be honest. I had it very very close at the end. Maybe 1-2 for Canelo at best.
     
  29. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

    Maybe, but Alvarez' punches had a noticeable effect basically every time they landed. Cotto clearly felt that getting into exchanges was playing with fire
     
  30. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

    I had it 10-2 Alvarez. The 5 or 6 best shots in almost every round were Alvarez shots. Cotto couldnt even make Alvarez blink.
     

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