Round By Round: Miguel Cotto vs. Saul "Canelo" Alvarez

The scoring was an absolute travesty and I cant fathom how anyone here thought Canelo won that fight. At best I can see a draw. I wouldn't even be mad if they had it for Alvarez by a max of 2 point's. That scoring was an indication that the fix was in and the only way for Cotto to win was by knockout. Both Marquez and Chavez Sr had it a draw or a very close fight. I respect Canelo and admit he is indeed a better fighter then I thought but Miguel has done way too much in the sport to take it away from him like that. The HBO commentary was awful in favor of Canelo. Oh well it is what it is. Miguel still has at most 2-3 fights left with the right opposition. As for Canelo I'm a fan and wish him the best!

 

Were you drinking last night? Chavez Senior is an infamous alcoholic, so that explains his scores.

Cotto didn't win shit.

 

I had a few glasses of wine but come on :l3:. The majority had this fight very close regardless. The scoring was an embarrassment. This is just my opinion though. We can go back and forth all day, it wont change the outcome. I'm a fan of both fighters and wish them the best but in my humble opinion Alvarez did not do enough to win that WBC belt.

 

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He is on god status?

People here picked Cotto almost 2-1 to win (apparently it was a secret that Cotto was "small" and "old" until after the fight.) The people that picked against him aren't giving him any credit. Just criticizing him, saying he will chicken out, or like you and Puerto Rock making up comic book scenarios (if this guy was still alive, if this guy was in his prime, if this guy was ten years younger, if this guy was fighting instead....ZZzzzzzz.) I don't see where the god status is that you've witnessed.

You say GGG would have been criticized for taking on Cotto? How? Cotto had a belt at his weight class and it would have been GGG's best opponent to date.

 

What in the absolute fuck?? Cotto fought well but he got schooled the whole second half of the fight. Lederman gave him one round where Canelo tripled him up on power punches just because Cotto did better than normal. Canelo's wife and mom were celebrating and smiling at the end of each round and Cotto's family looked like they wanted to cry. (I know that doesn't amount to shit but my point is even they all knew Canelo had clearly won.) I saw canelo in control from round 7 on with maybe one round going to Cotto.

 

Was he really 181 lbs? I mean that's 26 lbs difference. that is worse than Gatti-Gamache. I doubt that's even possible... I've never heard anybody going up from 155 to 181 or anything similar...

 

I was impressed by Canelo's quickness and accuracy yesterday. I also felt he pulled a pretty good defensive performance. I'm a Cotto fan since the beginning of his career but he was overmatched yesterday. He showed he had a chin and a lot of courage but his punches lacked the necessary power to turn the tide.

props to Canelo, it was a very good win.

 

Precisely my point.

Canelo can have both. GGG has nil leverage.

Might not be fair, but it is what it is.

 

Shit, I don't know. I'm just going along with everybody else. If we repeat it enough, it's sure to become part of boxing lore. ::

 

I don't think he was 180. I could believe 172-173 though. He appeared bigger than usual because Cotto probably only weighed like 158-160.

 

That fight was garbage, 1 of the worst I have ever seen. I don't mind a guy making the other miss and make him pay but Rigo landed very little last night. Horrible fight.

 

Oootrageous. Cotto was out boxing him for large parts of that fight and won 5ish rounds due to Canelos inactivity.

 

I'll rewatch the fight, but there's no way in Holy Hell Cotto won 5 rounds. I'd LOVE to say he did, as I was rooting for him big time, but Ginger won this fight by a commanding margin.

Basically whenever Ginger decided to turn up the heat he put hurt on Cotto. His gas tank is just too mediocre to consistently turn up. But even when he was coasting, he was mostly controlling the fight.

 

I have no problem with any scorecard on this fight. Most rounds were hard to score. Apparently Cotto thinks he won the fight...and I don't even think that's unreasonable of him actually.

Make no mistake...Canelo won the fight. I could see Canelo having won anywhere from 10 rounds to 7 rounds. However, most rounds were competitive and depended upon where you preferred activity or damage. For most of us cleaner harder punching trumps all else (and rightly so) and that's why we scored it for Canelo...but Cotto was clearly the busier fighter.

 

Get it while you can, mofos!

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Please Mute when you re-watch it. That HBO Commentary was outrageous.

 

Rewatched it and I scored it 7-5 Canelo, and an 8-4 score is fair.

I know groupies don't know anything about the sport, but when I hear their comments of Cotto being "outclassed" I shake my head. Nobody in this forum is saying that, thankfully.

Overall, it was a good skill fight. Didn't become the war we expected but if it had, I tend to think Canelo would have definitely stopped Cotto.

 

I see it the same way.

 

People have such selective memory. What was Hattons greatest strength as 140lber. He was able to boil down to 140 and then gain hella weight and be much bigger and stronger then his oppnonents. That was a good thing for Hatton but its all wrong for canelo. People act like canelo just started doing this. Hell he was way bigger then mayweather when they fought. Also when cotto moves around the ring its called boxing. When mayweather does it its called running. What the fuck. I'll Holla 5000

 

Hatton moved up to 147 and started getting his ass kicked. And what does Floyd have to do with anything?

 

Hatton didn't gain significant weight by fight time. Hatton was making 140 and coming into the ring at like 152-155. Bascially all junior welters of the last 20 years have been coming into the ring at 150-155, so Hatton never had a significant weight edge over guys. Tszyu actually came into the ring weighing more than Hatton, on average. There were a few times that Tszyu came into the ring at damn near 160. Hatton never put on THAT much.

 

Question. Why is it that Alvarez own countrymen had this fight a draw? You would figure they have Canelo's back. Chavez Jr, Marquez, Roberto Garcia all had this fight dead even. Not to mention allot of the Mexican fan-base. I'm a bit surprised by this.

 

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Yeah, cause NFL players REALLY know their boxing...

 

Ok but it's not just the casual fans. There are many former fighters saying the same thing X. And they are Mexican. I watched this fight 2 times and no way did Canelo do enough to win the WBC belt. That's just my opinion though and no matter what the outcome wont change. Many people are in disagreement over how the scoring went. Some had Alvarez win and some Cotto win.

 

THis man knows boxing....
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Anyway I thought the fight was A LOT closer than the scorecard suggest....with a GUN to my head if I had to give it to one guy it would be Canelo no doubt..he landed the more telling punches..EVEN if MOST of them were partialy blocked...even those blocked punches moved Cotto across teh ring..but THEY WERE block...

7-5 for Canelo...6-6 eve..I can live with...Did I thought Cotto won? NO....but it was close fight...

 

I can live with that. I had Cotto with a slight edge but that's just me. Apparently I'm not the only one. It all depends on how you score the fight.

 

Last thing I'll say about Canelo-Cotto.... I maintain what I said all along. The 07 version of Cotto woulda beaten Canelo handily. Cotto's more faded than Canelo groupies would like to believe. No, he's not shot but he's pretty faded. The fact that he's so faded and still ran Canelo close in many people's minds speaks volumes.

27-year-old Cotto was just so much sharper that I think he woulda countered Nelo much better and won by a commanding margin.