Spence on Thurman

“It’s nothing between me and Keith Thurman, it’s just Keith Thurman said he will fight anybody, nobody wants to fight him, everybody’s ducking him. You know, like he’s a big bad wolf, I’ll come out of the bushes, I’ll fight you. It is what it is. He said 10 million or something like that, people don’t get 10 million to fight Floyd Mayweather, and so I don’t know.”

Thurman wants 10 million to fight Spence??:laughing::laughing:

 

Oh yeah there's even a YouTube video of it I believe and that was the joke going around for a while about Thurman demanding an ABSURD 10 million to face Spence.

The dude is SCARED, nothing more.

 

[video=youtube;4jJ__4KzDKc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jJ__4KzDKc[/video]

He don't want it.

 

In all seriousness, Thurman is a dangerous fight for Spence. He's athletic, has good handspeed, and has pop. We don't know how Spence handles a guy with quickness and power.

BUT, short of that, Spence is a far better technician and will most likely take Thurman apart.

 

I agree.

But, I have trouble seeing Thurman beating Brook, let alone Spence.

Styleswise, I just see Spence breaking him down inside with those body shots and I don't think Thurman survives that for 12 rounds.

Of course with regards to the chin of Spence, how well he takes a shot will play a big role. But if his chin is even dependable, I have very little doubt he gets the job done. Bigger man, better boxer, and seems to have a better ring IQ.

Would love to see this fight or Thurman vs Garcia. And I would pay ppv if somehow Khan could be tricked into facing Spence.

 

REED Can Only Speak for what he's Seen in SPARRING, But Spence's Chin Seems to Be SOLID...He Almost Always Spars w/BIGGER Guys, who KNOW his Style, Which Leads to Him Getting Caught Clean MORE than we See in his Actual Bouts...

On the Off Chance a Shot Gets his Attention, Spence DISengages, Regroups and Resumes his Attack...

You NEVER Know what'll Happen, Until You've Seen a Fighter Caught FLUSH w/8oz. Gloves, but REED has Seen NATHAN to Suggest Errol Spence is Chinny....REED's Watched Dude Spar Probably 200 Rounds or More and has NEVER Seen him Dropped or Staggered...





REED

 

Thurman has turned out to be a total bust. But he is basically a product of dumb ass fans who heap praise on fighters who have not done shit. Why shouldn't Thurman want to continue on fighting nobodies? Apparently he is making money doing so .

By the way, Spence has not fought anyone either. And I think he fights another nobody on saturday.

 

True but he is at least trying to get others in the ring with him.

Those other guys are avoiding him like the plague.

 

What in the Hell can Spence do? Put a magic pen in the hands of Thurman, Spence, Porter, Brook that forces them to sign a contract?

You're acting like Spence is some bitch who's saying "I still need a few more tune ups." No. He's saying he wants those fights NOW!

Pick on Haymon. Not Spence.

 

Spence is a nobody. With all the recognizable names around the weight why would Thurman fight a dangerous nobody unless he was compensated for it?

 

So who is Thurman going to fight? Will he ever step up? If he faces Porter I know who I will be rooting for.

 

Still can't believe Thurman is holding out on Porter.

He must once again be demanding 10 million.

 

Spence wouldn't be a step up. He's beaten no names and he's unknown to the public. Porter, Garcia and Khan are winnable big fights for him. Why risk that to fight a no name?

 

Well he appears to be ducking Porter now as well.

 

Wait and see.

 

http://www.northtexasboxing.com/sean-reed.html

 

Great piece of work, bro.

Spence now ranked 3rd by the IBF is great news.

 

Brotha REED who do you think Haymon will put Spence in with next?

Hopefully Brook does what Porter and Thurman don't have the stones to do, and sign the contract.

In an ideal world, we see Thurman-Porter and Spence-Brook. Then the winners of those two matchups face off. Then we'll TRULY know who the best welter in the world is.

 

From REED's Limited "Experience" w/Al Haymon, he DOESN'T Pressure Guys Into Fights, the Way Some May Think he Does...If Guys Want to MILK their Titles & Paydays, Haymon Seems FINE w/That...Or, If Guys are AMBITIOUS, Haymon Does his Best to GET them the Fights they Want...

Case in Point, Errol Spence...Barely 6-8 Fights Into his Pro Career, Haymon Made LEGIT Offers to the Likes of Berto, Josesito Lopez and Alfonso Gomez, on Spence's Behalf...Considering Berto Wound Up Getting a Fight w/Floyd, REED Can Understand Why Berto didn't Take it, but the Point Stands, Spence WANTED that Fight in the Early Stages of his Career...

When Spence Targeted Keith Thurman, Haymon Lined Leonard Bundu Up, Who had JUST Fought Thurman...Bundu Pulled Out, Last Minute and HASN'T Accepted Any More Offers from Spence's Camp...& Most Recently, as REED Wrote, Algieri and Collazo (Who Also JUST Fought Thurman) PASSED on the Opportunity...




REED

 

This proves what we've all suspected... Spence wants the top contenders and champions but they don't want him.

This is particularly disappointing because KEITH THURMAN has been running his own mouth about how he's the most avoided, and he clearly ducks Spence with his ridiculous "10 million" demand.

 

Thurman just beat the piss out of Collazo and made him quit in his corner. Why would he fight Spence and what would it prove? That spence can avoid getting hurt with a body shot while he beats up an old fringe contender?

Chris Algieri, Diego Chaves, Jesse Vargas, etc are the class of guys Spence should be targeting.

 

For Better or Worse, Spence DEFINITELY Wants to Fight the Best Guys Available...A Lot of Fighters SAY That, Others Put ACTION Behind that Talk Where it Counts, in Contract Negotiations...




REED

 

What OTHER Options Does Collazo Have???...Financially, it'd Make Sense...If he's Retiring, So Be it, but if he CONTINUES to Fight, Where's a BETTER Offer Gonna Come From, Coming OFF a Loss???...

From Spence's Perspective, When You CAN'T Get the Guy You WANT (ie. Keith Thurman), to Sign on the Dotted Line, the Next Line of Business is to Line Up Guys he's ALREADY Beaten & Hope to Do So MORE Impressively/Decisively...What Spence Needs is NAMES...Collazo Has 1...& it's NOT Even Like Collazo is a Focal Point for Team Spence, or Anything, he was Merely MENTIONED as an Opponent they Tried to Make a Date w/when Talk of "Who Has Spence Fought" Surfaced...





REED

 

Terp talks about Thurman as if Keith is some mainstream star like Canelo.

He can argue that nobody knows who Spence is in the mainstream, but nobody knows Thurman in the mainstream either!!

Stop talking about Thurman as if he's some established great like Floyd who doesn't have to prove himself. The man has beaten NOBODY near Spence's caliber and you're not stupid, you know that. You know DAMN WELL that guys like Guerrero and Soto Karass bring nothing to the table in terms of ability the way Spence does.

So pllleaaase spare us the "what would it prove?"

Spence is VERY highly regarded in the boxing community, moreso than Thurman. In fact, given his talent and amateur pedigree, I'd venture to say Spence would be the betting favorite over Keith.

So Thurman beating him would PROOOVEE a lot.

So PLEEAASSE Terp, explain to us what exactly the great Thurman has done to warrant 10 million for a Spence fight? Is he some established A-side that I wasn't aware of?

IF Thurman beats Porter in style, he has more of a case. But as of right now, Thurman himself is still largely unproven.

What he HAS shown is that he can be hurt as he was rocked by Soto Karass, and hurt to the body by Collazo.

 

This. For instance, I don't think people realize that the LoGreco guy Spence blew away in 3 had gone the distance with Porter in his only previous loss, and even given Porter a decent fight.

So Spence takes on a guy who gives Porter a tough fight, and blows him away like he's literally NOTHING and still people wanna say Spence is fighting nothing but bums.

Ronald Cruz, that's another example. Cruz was coming off a fight where he was ROBBED BLIND against Cintron. Cruz goes up against Spence and receives a TERRIBLE beating for 10 rounds.

 

That's the thing with Thurman. He himself is largely unproven and hasn't fought anyone the caliber of Spence and he gets a pass. I ask, who is Thurman in line for? And before anyone says Porter, need it be reminded that he seems reluctant to take that fight too.

The excuses are ridiculous. Never before have I heard a guy demand 10 million to face another guy when he's never made anything CLOSE to that amount in a fight, is NOT a superstar, and who's never headlined on ppv. Thurman acts like he's a star but he's not. He's just as unproven as Spence, only Spence is WILLING to fight him to prove himself, whereas Thurman is not.

 

Barrera was Proud, Tough, Trained by Nacho and had NEVER Been Stopped in 30 Previous Bouts (2 Losses)...Van Heerden had "Names" Like Cosme Rivera, Matthew Hatton and Sebastian Lujan on his Record (Beating them All) and had YET To Be Stopped in 25 Prior Fights (1 Loss, 1 Draw)...

LoGreco, as You Noted, Went the Distance w/Shawn Porter and had NEVER Been Stopped in 27 Previous Bouts (1 Loss)...Samuel Vargas had NEVER Been Stopped in 22 Prior Bouts (1 Loss)...Hell, Noe Bolanos Went the Distance w/the SAME Erickson Lubin Who Showed Pretty Good Power on the PBC Opener Yesterday...Nonetheless, Spence Stopped Bolanos in 2...& then Ronald Cruz, as You've Already Mentioned...

That's 6 of Spence's Last 7 Fights...& While NOBODY is Portraying those Bouts as Proof of a Stellar Resume, those Damn Sure AIN'T "Bums" Either...There's SOMETHING to Be Said for STOPPING Guys that have NEVER Been Stopped Before, Particularly Guys w/Only 1-2 Losses...Spence has Done JUST that in his Last 4 Bouts...






REED

 

Spence is in a no-win situation. He's blowing away these fringe guys with ease and complete dominance, so cats are saying he doesn't fight anyone. If he was STRUGGLING with any of these fringe contenders, people would be calling him a fraud and saying if he can't handle the fringe guys how can he handle a top welter?

Last night, we saw Imam lose to a fringe contender. Only Granados is actually inferior to Spence's recent comp.

So you see the talent it takes to even dominate/destroy fringe contenders.

Terp can keep on his Thurman love claiming Thurman doesn't need to PROVE himself against Spence. But he does. Thurman is NOT an established fighter when his best win is over a faded Guerrero. He needs to prove himself against SOMEBODY. So does Spence, but at least Spence is willing to take the fight.

I'm still a fan of Thurman. And if the fight EVER gets a date and venue I think Thurman beats Porter clearly. But Porter isn't a top fighter himself.

Down the line, Thurman will have to face Spence or look like a bitch.

 

The mighty Errol Spence getting ducked by feather fisted semi-retired 40 year old fringe contenders the world over.

If Thurman is considered unproven then Spence is a total nobody. If Thurman needs to step up why would he do it by fighting someone less proven than he is?

If Thurman blasted Spence out he'd be lumped in with Imam as a failed over hyped prospect. If spence blew out Thurman people wouldn't say the next day "you know Errol "The Truth" Spence KO'd Keith Thurman!". They'd say "you know Keith Thurman got knocked out!" That's not mainstream stardom but it's more than Spence has.

You guys seem scared to see him risk his image against the next level of opposition and I can see why the way Barrera was tagging him.