UFC 193 |Ronda Rousey vs. Holly Holm

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  1. Trplsec

    Trplsec Sleeps in a Cage

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    By the way, I hope the UFC doesn't shelf Holm until Rousey comes back. Holm-Tate is a very marketable fight. I'd love to see that in the spring.
     
  2. Anthony

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    Cyborg is already legendary. And if the UFC did the right thing, they would make a 145 pound division centered around her.
     
  3. Anthony

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    Holm already said she isnt waiting for Ronda.
     
  4. Anthony

    Anthony Admin Staff Member

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    <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/MnFXyDC1TAM" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
     
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    Jimmy The Greatest of Are Times

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    Can't view the vid because I'm in the UK. What a load of shit that is.
     
  6. mikE

    mikE "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    If the did the right thing they'd never broadcast a single fight of hers because of her PED history.
     
  7. Anthony

    Anthony Admin Staff Member

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    Her getting caught one time? Shit might as well ban most people. Never show a rj fight after he was caught. Or him or James toney should not be listed as all time greats I guess. Please.
     
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    Dog Jones WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Dana creates a women's FW title and inexplicably awards the title to Ronda
     
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    joony "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    i think the consensus hate on her for taking roids is based on her gender. plus, there haven't been any other notable female fighters who's been popped for roids yet.
     
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    joony "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    i'm not sure if cyborg's still managed by tito, but perhaps it's her affiliation with him that ticks dana off. i think tito was part of her team when they were initially in negotiations with dana.
     
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    Azazel "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Agreed, look at Vitor Belfort and Josh Barnnett, these are repeat offenders yet still fight and are heavily promoted by the UFC.
     
  12. Anthony

    Anthony Admin Staff Member

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    Tito left her over a year ago because he didn't want his association with her to mess with her career
     
  13. Anthony

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    I'm over it. She got caught, once and has been tested like crazy since. to me, cyborg is the greatest female mma fighter ever. And she should have a 145 division built around her. It would bring in more fighters and make for great fights imo.
     
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    Yeah but how? Most females at 145 are either fat or in Cyborgs case because they are basically men. Hell if you have to trim down for 135 you are not a normale female. Of course the talent will be spread around the median weight of non-obese females. Look at the female heavyweight division in boxing. There are like 5 active fighters in the world...
     
  15. Trplsec

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    Get real. More people know Holly Holm's name today than Cyborg's. Cyborg is known and regarded among long time and hardcore fans but That would magnified by 1000 if she walked thru Holm at 135.

    You know this.
     
  16. Trplsec

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    I've made this point to Anthony multiple times. There are zero female fighters of note at 145. And Cyborg doesn't have enough time left in her career to grow the talent pool at 145 to make an impact.

    If she continues to fight at 145, it will be in Invicta with the 10-15 fans that watch. Regardless of Rousey going down, 135 in the UFC is the ONLY place Cyborg will gain Rousey-level recognition.
     
  17. Trplsec

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    Do you understand the biological difference between a dude taking steroids and a female taking the same?

    I despise both but there is a simple biological reason why it bothers me more with Cyborg.
     
  18. Anthony

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    Same way they did with 135. Have TUF and get girls in there.
     
  19. Anthony

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    I dont care what idiots dont know. Real MMA fans know who Cyborg is.
    She is the one Ronda and Dana ran from for going on 2 years. But would rather make a catch weight at 155 with Carano or 160 with Ali. Thinks she can beat Cain Velasquez, but wont take on Cyborg.
     
  20. Anthony

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    Ronda kills herself to get to 135. She might go to 145 soon enough. I mean look at this shit?

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    No, tell me. And make sure you bring the facts and not the guess. Now i know the difference in the harm it causes to oneself between a man and woman and on a woman it's much worse, but dont know what the difference in what it causes to opponents.
     
  22. mikE

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    PEDs are equally bad for either sex. They are the worst kind of cheating. 3 year ban first offense; Lifetime ban second offense.

    To believe that Cyborg only used PEDs the one time she got caught is worst than believing in Santa Claus.
     
  23. Anthony

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    Doesnt matter what i believe, it matters if she was caught or not. By that logic i guess Pac should be banned forever.

    All i know is that since she was caught, she has been tested regularly and has passed.
     
  24. mikE

    mikE "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    What do you believe? Why?
     
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    I believe 90% of the sports world is on PEDs.
     
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    Well, I'm not going to research and quote sources but I'm pretty sure the effects in women are longer lasting than in men after stopping.

    Additionally, a chick increasing her testosterone to estrogen ratio is basically turning her into a man (minus the junk). Again that's pretty simple biology but I'm not going to bother quoting sources. If you don't agree, then considering me wrong.
     
  27. Anthony

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    I cant say i agree or dont. That is why i was hoping you would tell me. that being said, all these bitches take Peds man.
     
  28. Trplsec

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    Nice contradiction. You give Cyborg the benefit of the doubt because she's only been busted once and in the same breath you assume ALL females take PEDS.

    Nice
     
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    mw314159 Undisputed Champion

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    Cyborg was juicing for years before she got caught. She's the poster child (or poster man) for anabolic steroid side effects in women.

    I'm against anyone taking steroids in sports organizations where they're banned. It's worse with women because it gives them more of an extreme advantage over their natural opponents. AAS basically transform women into men. That's how the female to male transgender thing works. Cyborg has the body frame and strength now that she never could have achieved naturally, even if she quit.
     
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  30. Anthony

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    Difference between peds and steroids tho
     

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