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And yet she cant remember who left her or even what the person looks like? Your theory falls apart because of that. Maybe she is luke's daughter. But that doesnt change the fact that my theory is much more plausible.

 

Good argument. I win

 

btw, we could both be right.


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Well me saying you are wrong on a theory would be ridiculous, so I wont do that. You may very well be right.

 

There was no jedi council with rules and laws when Luke was trained. It was just Obi Wan left.

 

HOW THE fuck do you know that? You are just making shit up.

clearly you arent thinking properly. They said Anikan was too young to START TRAINING. You dont know when Obi Wan started fucking training. He also listed Anikan's age as reason because Anikan already had too much Anger in him.

You are being uncharacteristically unreasonable here.

 

In episode 1 qui gon said that obi wan was ready to be on his own. Also, you confuse Jedi training with Jedi master training. I have been a black belt for over 20 years and still am learning.

 

The Jedi Order has four basic ranks: Youngling, Padawan, Knight, and Master. Although the names and specifics differ throughout the history of the Jedi, the basic progression from trainee to Knight to Master remains the same.

Youngling

Definition: "Youngling" is a common term for Jedi initiate, a child in the first stages of Jedi training. It is also a generic, species-neutral word for a young child.
In-universe: In the early millennia of the Jedi Order, there was no strong central organization to oversee Jedi training and other policy matters. Jedi were free to choose apprentices who they felt had Force potential. Gradually, the Jedi Order became more centralized, with power resting in the Jedi Council.
After the Battle of Ruusan around 1,000 BBY, the Council established new standards for Jedi training. Seeking to avoid training anyone who risked falling to the dark side, they decided to recruit children with Force potential while they were still infants. By raising children in the Jedi temple, cutting off contact with their families and the outside world, the Jedi Council hoped to better teach them how to avoid attachment, fear, and other negative emotions that lead to the dark side.

Younglings were assigned to clans, where they learned basic Jedi principles and techniques. Once they finished their training as younglings, generally around age 13, they either became Padawans to a Jedi Knight or Jedi Master, or were assigned to the Service Corps.

Families of Force-sensitive children had mixed reactions to this new Jedi practice. Some were glad that their children could reach their full potential, but others saw the Jedi as mere kidnappers. One well-publicized controversy centered on "Baby Ludi." The Jedi initially believed her to be an orphan; when her mother appeared and tried to regain custody, they refused to give her up.
After the Jedi Purge, the Jedi Council was destroyed and Luke Skywalker had to rebuild the Jedi Order from scratch.

He trained older students as a matter of necessity: there were no resources to search out Force-sensitive infants. As Luke rediscovered the practices of the old Jedi Order, he restored some of the Jedi initiate clans.

Padawan

Definition: A Padawan, or Jedi apprentice, is a Jedi trainee who is apprenticed to a Jedi Knight or Master. Padawans receive one-on-one instruction in the ways of the Jedi. When a Padawan's training is completed, he must pass the Trials to become a Jedi Knight.
In-universe: In the early history of the Jedi, Jedi Masters could teach more than one apprentice at once. After the Jedi Order became more unified and centralized, around 4,000 BBY, the High Council set forth rules for training apprentices, who became known as Padawans.

A Jedi Master could not take more than one Padawan at a time, and potential Padawans had to be under a certain age to be trained.
The rules and structure of Jedi training became even more strict and centralized after the Battle of Ruusan, around 1,000 BBY. The Jedi Order began to seek out infants with Force potential and raise them in the Jedi Temple, cut off from family and other emotional attachments.
These Younglings were trained in the basic tenets of the Force, and had to pass the Initiate Trials in order to get chosen as Padawans. Some did not get chosen, and instead joined the Jedi Service Corps.
Padawans typically wore a single braid -- or equivalent jewelry, for species without hair -- to identify themselves as apprentices. They trained with their masters for about a decade, and were expected to obey their masters in everything as they learned and grew in the Force. If they passed the Jedi Trials, they became Jedi Knights. Generally, training an apprentice to Knighthood was a requirement for becoming a Jedi Master.

When Luke Skywalker reestablished the Jedi Order after the Jedi Purge, there were not enough fully-trained Jedi for the Master-Padawan system.




Instead, Luke set up a Jedi Academy and trained many students, much like the Jedi of old. One-on-one apprenticeships existed, but were generally informal and impermanent. Later on, Luke's son Ben began to restore some of the Padawan tradition to the New Jedi Order, such as the Padawan braid.



Jedi Knight

Definition: A Jedi Knight is a Jedi who has completed her training. The term was first used in Episode IV: A New Hope, but the first Jedi Knight did not appear until Luke Skywalker used the title in Return of the Jedi.
In-universe: In the early days of the Jedi Order, Force-sensitive beings would train informally with Jedi Masters, becoming a Padawan. Once a Padawan's master thought his training was done, the master would declare the student a Knight.


Once the Jedi Order became more unified and centralized, beginning around 4,000 BBY, the Jedi training process became more formalized. In order to become a Jedi Knight, a Jedi had to spend around ten years in one-on-one training with a master, then pass the Jedi Trials administered by the High Council.
This change in process allowed the Jedi Council to keep track of all the Jedi trainees and impose more consistent standards for becoming a Knight. However, there were provisions for knighting a Jedi after she faced a significant challenge in the field. For example, Obi-Wan Kenobi was knighted without facing the formal Jedi Trials after he defeated Darth Maul.

Jedi Knights served the Jedi Order, going on missions assigned by the Jedi Council. They also continued their study of the Force and were generally expected to train one or more Padawans. A Jedi Knight could become a Jedi Master once he trained a Padawan to Knighthood, as long as the Jedi Council thought he was ready.

Not all Padawans were able to pass the Jedi Trials and become Jedi Knights.

Those who didn't went into Service Corps branches, such as the Agricultural Corps.
When Luke Skywalker revived the Jedi Order after the Great Jedi Purge, the process of training became more informal. Luke began calling himself a Jedi Knight after training with Yoda, then took the title of Jedi Master when he created his Jedi Academy.

The Jedi he knighted had the power to knight their own apprentices. After rediscovering the old Jedi traditions, however, Luke incorporated a more formal knighting ceremony into the New Jedi Order.


Jedi Master


Definition: A Jedi Master, as the name implies, is one who has attained mastery of the Force. Although the first Jedi Master to appear was Obi-Wan Kenobi in A New Hope, the title wasn't explicitly used until Luke trained under Yoda in The Empire Strikes Back.
In-universe: Jedi Master was the highest rank in the JediOrder, and as such was reserved for the most talented. A Jedi Master needed not only superior combat skills, but superior knowledge and wisdom in the ways of the Force.

Even Jedi as powerful as Anakin Skywalkermight not become Jedi Masters if the Council felt they were not mature and balanced enough.
During the periods when the Jedi Council had centralized control over the Order -- most of the time between 4,000 BBY and the Jedi Purge -- the Council had strict standards of who could become a Jedi Master.
The most common test was to train more than one Padawan to Knighthood. The Council could also bestow the title of Master on someone who passed a significant Trial, much like the Jedi Trials to become a Jedi Knight, or performed an extraordinary service for the Republic. With the exception of Anakin Skywalker (and, temporarily, Ki-Adi-Mundi), one had to be a Jedi Master to get a seat on the Jedi Council.

Before 4,000 BBY and after Luke Skywalker reestablished the Jedi Order, the process of Jedi training was much more informal and decentralized. In the early days of the Jedi Order, Jedi Knights would declare themselves Jedi Masters once they felt they deserved it, particularly after fighting the Sith.


This had great potential for abuse and was strongly discouraged by the Jedi Council.
Luke declared himself a Jedi Master before starting his Jedi Academy, since there was no Jedi Council at the time to give him the title. This action drew criticism, however, because Luke had only trained for a few years.


The standard of training apprentices to Knighthood was not generally used in the New Jedi Order; instead, Jedi gained the title of Master either based on Luke's personal assessment of their skill or because of their extraordinary service to the New Republic.

 

so what if he was a padawan. He got promoted to knight In episode 1.

 

He wasn't. We don't know when he transitioned from youngling to padawan.