Pulev vs Chisora on Saturday

Might be fun to watch. Pulev should win easily though

 

I doubt he will. Pulev is garbage

 

Maybe so, but he holds easy wins over the likes of Thompson, Ustinov and such. Prime Chisora would be live but he has looked awful since 2013

 

I don't really agree. I think he looked decent, if uninterested, in these fights, bar the Fury fight. But Fury is such a higher quality of fighter than Pulev, that I don't think it means much

 

I've looked at his last 2 fights (talking about Chisora), and yes, he looked awful in both. Fat, slow and easy to hit. Yet, from times to times, we'd see some flash of his former self which make me believe it's more of him being unmotivated and not training hard for these scrubs than him being over the hill.

 

Pulev was fucked up by Wlad. He might lose this one.

 

Chisora had trained, he was lighter than we have seen in long time and displayed some upper body movement.

Pulev however beat him up, winning roughly ten rounds out of twelve. One card in favor of Chisora was ridiculous. Pulev's jab is splendid and it was the key to victory, and he seemed to hurt Chisora with his right hands in several rounds.

Chisora's best round was the 9th where he hurt Pulev with a left hook and Pulev had to clinch a lot. Chisora also landed plenty of body punches which did slow Pulev down but they were not enough.

Pulev with his good basic technique and solid jab would give a good fight to pretty much anyone.

 

Pulev won a SD

 

Is this bum your cousin or something?

 

Fuck, forgot this fight was today. Split decision in germany. Smells like a robbery.

Edit: Well, after reading a few articles, it seems that Pulev actually deserved the fight. Weird.

Edit2: Seems there was disgraceful hugging on Pulev part, and the ref let him go away with him. Unsurprising since Pulev is a garbageman of a fighter, and has no clue on how to fight inside.

 

Lots of guys get the decision in Germany. This "Germany is Robbery" is bullshit.

Chisora was taking this fight to prepare him as cannon fodder for Joshua.

Pulev did well.

 

No it ain't. No matter how much many times you repeat this lies, it is still a lie. While they don't have the monopoly of shady stuff, there has been a ton of horrible decisions over there.

 

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Fucking gay referees. Always going away with the winning fighter.

PS Pulev clinched and rabbit punched all night vs Wlad ::

 

This is a good thing to remember

 

Pulev indeed showed a great jab.

 

The facts do not support your position. You're welcome to try to prove otherwise, but you won't. No one ever does.

But, if you do...Examples you will invariably choose will include non-Germany referees and judges as if just being in Germany makes their calls support for your position. Of course, this conflation is never used when a foreign judge turns in a bad USA card. In those cases, that's used as evidence of the origin country being bad.

To the extent bad decisions and judging occur in Germany it is in line with the USA.

 

Not that I agree with JOM (I've given this issue precisely zero thought because I don't care, really) but this statement is completely meaningless

 

Exactly it is an extremely idiotic statement. Because A is not from the same nationality as B, it means that B cant corrupt A. Makes no sense at all.

Statement that is even more idiotic when you consider that most sanctionning bodies requires neutral officials for world title fights. So if we go by mike absurd criteria, corruption is automatically impossible in a world title fight

 

The facts doesnt support that there is a ton of corrupt decision in Germany?

Ok, how about:

Reid-otkke
Ottke-tate
Otkke-brewer
Strum-chudinov2
Beyer-Lucas
Strum-Murray
Huck-lebedev
Brewster-krasniqi
Valuev- ruiz 1
Abraham-miranda
Witter-schwarzakopoft (or however the fuck it is spelled)
Macklin sturm
Ross-hernandez
Ross-cunningham
The dany williams fight in spain( with german promoters)

As i said, they dont have the monopoly of shady stuff, and probably is not even the most corrupted place in the world boxingwise, but pretending that boxing in germany is fine reeks of either ignorance or hypocrisy

Rest of your post is nonsensical so i won't waste my time responding to it

 

Exactly... It's illogical

 

The statement wasn't that, though. Your claim that 'Germany is corrupted' doesn't make sense because the officials and fighters come from several countries.

It is the same as claiming 'USA is corrupt' based on Lewis-Holyfield. It would make more sense to blame Sauerland or whoever was the promoter of a shady event.

 

The first part of your post doesnt make any sense. It doesnt matter, where the officials come from. The important part is where the corruption takes place. If guy jutras from canada gets bribed by a german promoter to judge a match in favor of a german fighter, the impact is on germany boxing, not Canadian boxing. Incredible that i have to explain such a simple thing.

 

So, did Holyfield-Lewis scandal have impact on all American boxing, Las Vegas, or just Don King?

What is incredible is if you can't see a difference between Germany and a German promoter

 

Your list is bullshit, btw. Glad you included Abraham Miranda. What was so bad about that fight again?

 

How bout michalzcewski-hall 1?

 

The "German promoter" of Danny Williams fight is actually Turkish

There was nothing wrong with Valuev-Ruiz, Sturm-Murray, Macklin-Sturm and several others mentioned. Close fights with many rounds where the personal taste of judges comes to play.


Btw how did you guys see Mayweather-Ortiz. Was it corrupt, or just incompetent refereeing? What about the famous bogus stoppage of Michaelczewski-Griffin in Germany? The same ref was around both times

 

But of course it is bullshit ::
Go watch miranda-abraham and youll see.

 

Oner was born in germany, was working primarly in germany, and living over there. Maybe for you because ethnically he is turk it disqualify him from being a german, but then , it shows a lot about your mentality. Anyway i dont care what a few euro and/or contrarians think. Pretty much anyone who follows boxing knows germany is a pretty corrupted place

 

So Öner is a German and since he was corrupt, all Germans and whole Germany is corrupt. And you talk about to me about disqualifying people because of ethnics.

And if arguing with facts against a long-repeated mantra is being a contrarian, I am happy to be one. Since, as one wise man once said