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  1. Double L

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    name other fighters you would've picked to defeat all of the opponents PBF faced.
     
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    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    I already named..SRL as someone who would smash every single one of Floyd's opponents....

    Also Hearns....also Wilfred Benitez...
     
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    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    Going way back...SRR and Gavilan...and and...and...
     
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    but those guys did not start out at 130. arguello, for example, is a possibility, but not sure he would've beaten even an aging ODH.
     
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    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    Didn't DLH start at 130???....DLH would beat his old version...Canelo and an old Mosley...and Cotto...
     
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    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    Homicide Hank...would TRASHES everybody in Floyd resume.....and he started at 120:130??
     
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    Neil tueur de grenouilles

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    not many 130lbers who would defeat a middleweight like alvarez 17 years into their career. his resume is very good, but the longevity and discipline are more impressive than the names
     
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    Wiser 1878 Bridgerweight Champion

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    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    No way Benitez is consistent enough to beat all these guys without losing. Agreed with the other 2
     
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    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    I think Sweet Pea would be more than up to the task.
     
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    Manny Pacquiao
     
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    Destruction and Mayhem PHASE ----3

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    leonard and Hearns were too big to compete at 130lbs so scratch them off you list .

    The only fighters relevant for this discussion are those that could have competed from 130 through to 154, cause this is what it's about.
     
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    Destruction and Mayhem PHASE ----3

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    At age 34 Leonard was being dominated by Norris and at age 40 he was being annihilated. Floyd maintained a top fighter status for almost 20 years. People don't quite grasp how difficult that is to achieve
     
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    Destruction and Mayhem PHASE ----3

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    Possibly but I suspect that he'd have been in life and death struggles with Corrales, Castillo and Alvarez. He certainly was in life and death struggles with Marquez as is and Floyd handled Marquez with consummate ease
     
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    He would have a good shot but not sure he beats Alvarez at 154lbs
     
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    Armstrong fought in the 30s which had weaker talent than Floyd's era. I don't see Armstrong beating de la Hoya and Pacquiao and Canelo . He'd struggle with Castillo and Corrales and Marquez to be honest with ya. No way he's going undefeated fighting all those guys. No frickingnway. Not sure he even beats Cotto.
     
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    puerto rock WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Trinidad and Quartey mop up with Mayweather's scalps at 147 and 154 IMO.
     
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    Trinidad, yes. Not sure quartey beats Alvarez at 154. Would have been a close fight.
     
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    Destruction and Mayhem PHASE ----3

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    But what I must remind people is that what's impressive about Floyds career is not specifically what he did at Welterweight and Jnr Middleweight, because those in isolation are just good achievements but nothing exceptional, but rather what he did from 130lbs all the way to 154lbs. Remember he's been a champion since 1998 so for 17 years he dominated those divisions at the top. No on else has done that: either winning championship fights for that long or staying undefeated for that long and jumping through so many weights at the championship level for that long. Statistically he's on his own in that regard.

    Unless someone can educate me differently..
     
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    The answer is any welter that was better than Cotto, Canelo and past prime midget Pac so it should be a pretty long list...
     
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    Bordon Undisputed Champion

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    Any live version of Whitaker schools Canelo.
     
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    Seriously, Whitaker would embarrass that guy
     
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    Duran would absolutely duplicate Mayweather's feat
     
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    Destruction and Mayhem PHASE ----3

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    Good, this was the answer I was waiting for.

    Duran couldnt stay undefeated before he even left lightweight. He couldn't stay undefeated before he went to jnr middleweight (Lang). Every time Duran lost you fucks ( with all due respect) said that it's because he was above his prime weight and that as he got into his 30s he was no longer prime yada yada yada.

    Therefore, I'm sorry, but Duran doesn't qualify as someone that would have duplicated floyds feat from 130 to 154 over 17 years and over all of the guys that Floyd fought. No sir .

    In individual MMs you can make somewhat of a case because MMs assume the fighter at his absolute best but Duran has proven to be inconsistent at the very least ( more like certain styles he can't beat truthfully) and degraded obviously over time whereas Floyd has been consistent as consistent is.
     
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    Nonsense. Whitaker struggled with Hurtado and was beaten up by Tito at a younger age than Floyd embarrassed Canelo.

    Remember, Floyds feat is not just who the fighters were that he beat but over the vast length of time that he was doing it. Let's see Whitaker at age 38 beat Canelo at 154lbs. Canelo would send him to his grave.
     
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    Destruction and Mayhem PHASE ----3

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    Welterweights don't cut it only they started out at 130lbs.
     
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    i hope pbf comes back and gets thrashed.
     
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    Destruction and Mayhem PHASE ----3

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    Hahaha, I bet you do.

    Even if he does it'll mean little as he's well into his 40s now.
     
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    Duran had 72 professional fights before he fought Leonard at the age of 29... How would Floyd look right now if he had fought 72 times by the age of 29? And Duran started as a bantamweight
     
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    Destruction and Mayhem PHASE ----3

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    But age is as or more important as number of fights. Why don't you ask the same question of Leonard btw a guy that fought a paltry number of fights. What about Joe Frazier? Why stop at Mayweather?
     

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