The dumbest shit I've ever heard.

[video=youtube;6gdzbtxhHoM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gdzbtxhHoM[/video]

 

Ok, now THAT was hilarious.

Of course he's off base on many things and of course he'll be crucified by most boxing fans (nostalgia runs deep in boxing) but he's made some valid points in between some of the nonsense.

Objectively Mayweather is at least as great as Leonard and Fkoyd has never been knocked down let alone lost going into his 40s. How many other fights in history can say the same? And I agree that Leonard had no business losing to Duran who had already lost to dejesus at a lower weight.

But what cracked me up was the whole coach dicksucking bit. I agree that Leonard should have never brought that shit up and at 15 years old, a boxer at 15 no less, he should have been able to defend himself and not stand there like a pussy and have some old man suck his dick. Lol

 

I did crack up at that too.

Now Leonard does have losses but he competed in a tougher era than Mayweather. If you give Leonard the same quality of comp Mayweather has, he too would have retired undefeated.

 

Every second of that was retarded

 

You're talking to a guy who has sincerely convinced himself that right now is a better era, so powerful is his attraction to Floyd Mayweather's testes

 

Objectively, Floyd is neither greater than Leonard nor better.

He had better longevity, that's it. That....is.... it!

Early 80s Leonard was a better fighter than Floyd ever was. Even P4P.

 

Xplosive, in EVERY sport, every.......dominance = greatness.

Gretzky in Hockey
Jordan in Basketball
Tiger Woods in Golf
Federer in Tennis

Like it or not Floyd Mayweather has been more dominant than Leonard. And I'm not merely taking about his "0" I'm talking about winning in multiple weight classes over two decades. In any other sport such an athlete would be given supreme props but in boxing....nostalgia runs deep

 

Dude P4P Leonard is not better than Floyd. At 147? Yes. But not a better fighter than the 130lb to 140lb Floyd

 

SRL is Jordan.....Floyd is Isiah Thomas...

Duran is Gretzky...FLoyd is Jaromir Jagr..

SRR is is Tiger Woods....Floyd is the any of the other mothefukas...

FLOYD is GREAT....just not TOP 10 all time great....nah mean...

 

And you are only as good as your competition.....sadly for Floyd there were no Duran...Benitez...Hagler...Hearns when he was around......there was ONE guy that came close to that level...and Floyd avoided that fight like the fucking plague.

SRL wipes his GAY ass with everyone...and anyone in Floyd Resume....

Mayweather...will NOT end his career with that glories "0" if he fought everyone in Leonard resume...

 

I doubt Floyd would walk through any of the 90s welterweights/junior middleweights let alone the ones from the 70s/80s class.

 

Floyds a much smaller man than Ray and a s such I don't see him beating Hearns. But P4P he beats everyone on Rays resume.

 

You guys don't seem to grasp what Mayweather has achieved. This guy started out at 130lbs and was eventually able to dominate a man half his age at 154lbs who probably weighed 165lbs on fight night. Floyd started at 130lbs! Trying to denigrate him by saying he may not beat most welterweights and jnr middleweights as like saying Riy Jonesbis crap because he wouldn't have beaten Holmes, Ali, foreman or Tyson at heavyweight.

Lol

Y'all are nuts. Only The Sly One ( and those that agree with him ) is correct on this matter

 

Floyd's one of the few great fighters in a very poor transition period for the sport (at least north of say, Featherweight)... It is an indictment of the condition of the sport that the very best fighters around the welterweight/junior middleweight ranks the last few years were a pair of MUCH older, relatively small fighters who were not only the best but the best by a wide margin... There are several here who seem desperate to ignore what their eyeballs ought to tell them... The decline in quality is pronounced... There seems to be a belief among some here that acknowledging the obvious means you can't still follow and enjoy the sport... My eyeballs tell me that Gene Tunney would get waxed by Lou Del Valle ... Those same eyeballs tell me that Amir Khan isn't a headliner 15 years ago, never mind when Leonard was fighting... You can cover your ears and scream "Nostalgia" or "Bert Sugar" until the cows come home, the film doesn't lie

 

Canelo is a shitty fighter, man

 

The young fans of today whom have mostly only watched Floyd expect you to call him TBE or your called a "hater."

Saying Floyd isn't TBE is not denigrating at all. He beats most fighters but he's just not an all timer at 147 lbs and above.

 

he's pretty average, but its a good win that deep into his career

 

exactly, and his retirement avoidance of Williams and Margarito also hinder greatly his legacy imo.

Not to mention that his longevity and weight jumping prowess would have been a lot more impressive if he had actually fought the best guys available.

 

Canelo is not a shitty fighter. You're better than that. He has some flaws and he's far from great, but he also has some upsides.

 

Put Floyd's abilities and relative resume (he's beaten the best available guys around him for 20 years) in any era 80s and before and he's a universally recognized top 3 all time fighter.

Even his haters can't point to any flaws in his game.

I challenge even Cdogg and Xplosive, his primary haters, to tell me a flaw in his game. One flaw.

 

Canelo is not shitty and he's only called shitty because Floyd beat him easily. I hope the GGG fight comes off, because if it does you'll realize that he's not easy to beat.

 

Come on man. How could a former 130lbs fighter move up and fight Oscar De La Hoya at 154lbs and the be accused of avoiding Margarito? Come on, be reasonable. It's easy to say now that "oh but Oscar was washed up" blah blah blah but at the time Oscar had destroyed Mayorga in his previous fight and still looked as formidable as ever. And the hatton matchup is underrated now but at the time Hatton was an undefeated universally recognized top 5 P4P fighter: stopped Tszyu and Castillo among others.

Don't make me go all inner city African American on you guys and start saying shit like "y'all be trippin'"

 

As far as promoting himself, Floyd did a good job of making himself a sports radio/barbershop topic and that's where most of his strength lies in terms of how he's rated. To casual fans he's a name they know and know little stats and factoids about and they can focus on him and kind of sound like they know what they're talking about. Like Sly said, they just assume he's "dominant" like team sports players they know but theirs no context.

24/7 took some of Floyds fights to levels they didn't really deserve to be at and when Floyd beat guys like Guerrero and Ortiz he got legit credit that he didn't really deserve in the mainstream because "he did it again".

 

He thought the Oscar fight was worth taking a ri$k for. Despite your bizarre interpretation of history he otherwise spent the decade or so after the Castillo near-miss punctiliously, cynically (and very successfully) reducing the degree of risk he exposed himself to the minimum he could get away with while remaining marketable.

 

the Hatton fight was not at 140...it's pathetic

 

this is a myth, repeated so much that people think it is fact. Which top fighter did he avoid? Again don't say he should have fought Margarito instead of Oscar because that's silly. So after Oscar who did he avoid?

 

No, of course not instead of Oscar. Instead of pretend retiring then fighting a junior welter and a lightweight at welter between phony retiring again. Williams, margarito, cotto and mosley were all live fights at that point yet fast forward 5 years and the oldest of that group was the only welterwight worth a damn hed fought, contriving to wait a few more years until he was 38 and out the ring for 16 months. By that point all that was put into the shade by his leaving the biggest fight in decades out in the sun to rot for 5 whole years. He's a cynical, hustling wee prick and he should be remembered as that as well as the great fighter he was

 

Legacy don't pay bills.

 

It's funnier still because Sly's ultimate hero is Ali who HAVE LOSS and left absolutely no stone unturned in his career and whose present bills are indeed paid by his legacy

 

Mayweather have more Rolex than Ali.