The one that befuddled a prime Forrest twice, how does he fare against the two top welters of today in Thurman or Porter?
I think Porter is too less sloppy than Mayorga and pretty strong and tough himself and should win a close entertaining decision or maybe late stoppage. Thurmans a lot more vulnerable but he'd probably stop mayorga as well or win a wider decision. Mayorga is built to over achiever against more orthodox opponents but Porters a brawler and Thurman is a slugger that can box a little.
Mayorga was overrated garbage but he punches hard enough and recklessly enough to hurt and stop Thurman and he's certainly strong enough to handle Porter's wild ass
Mayorga was a flash in the pan young hungry fighter when he beat Forrest. By the time the rematch came around he was only marginally as hungry and only won that fight because Forrest's confidence was shot until the midway point of the fight.
Thurman couldn't avoid the overhand right of Soto Karass. Mayorga was prime Duran compared to Soto Karass. I think Mayorga of the Forrest fights either stops Thurman, and beats him up well enough to win a decision.
Thurman is way too sharp a puncher to lose a decision to Mayorga. I could see him struggling or getting stopped but no way he loses a decision.
Mayorga can outpoint Forrest, but there's NO WAY Mayorga can win a decision over Thurman? Who in TF do people think Keith Thurman is?????
I don't know what people are watching when they see Thurman... He's an overly tense, leap amateur with overrated punching power... He's a completely typical beltholder in this dreadful era
Motherfuckers here have gone crazy...THURMAN is GARBAGE....the fact that he fought neck and neck with an even lesser garbage man in Porter...shows how GARBAGE THURMAN really is... THurman is at his best when he's all out aggressive....cause when he act like he knows how to box he looks ridiculous. it's fake...it's a mirage...he's NOT REAL....
He's a fucking awful boxer... It's like people have forgotten the trade, the craft, can't remember what it used to look like... These tensed-up, stiff, jumpy spaztastic fighters are fucking terrible... All this wasted energy... On the undercard, a kid named Hurd was relaxed, easy and comfortable, no wasted tense energy, no Fight Night PS3 haymakers, no reacting to every feint as if a grenade had been tossed his way... roll with the punches... It was almost a shock to see, since it's nearly unheard of with these young motherfuckers... I hope he blossoms into a top guy
Forrest was scared and tentative. Thurman will punch back when in doubt and obviously he's going to land. I can see him getting caught and stopped pretty easily but I don't see Mayorga smack him around round after round. Mayorgas not that good and Thurmans not that durable. Thurmans also better.
I'm not saying it would be a one sided beating. Thurman WOULD have success and WOULD win rounds. I just don't think it's far-fetched to believe that Mayorga could score a KD or two, and inflict enough damage to win a decision. I don't think that's far fetched AT ALL. Mayorga has two ways of winning this fight. There's a possibility of him stopping Thurman or winning a decsion. Thurman's only winning a decision. He has ZERO chance of stopping 02-03 Mayorga.
Yet you like Mosley? He was the king of wasted energy. All these pointless feints and jerks and twists and rolling of th gloves to make him look like some slick boxer when he was just a slugging cunt.
Both Thurman and Mosley are super dependent of their athleticism/power. Mosley had better athleticism and better power. End of discussion. Keith Thurman isn't some James Toney technician. He's not an elite caliber boxer at all.
Agrees that Thurman needs to stop trying to BOX and instead would be better served to walk down opponents like Porter. Play more to his strengths and talents.
Ehhh.... I think the style he fights in suits him the best. He isn't strong enough or durable enough to be a pressure fighter. What he is now is fine. He's a good fighter. Mosley was just a much better fighter.
Ehh you might be right. It just didn't feel right to me to see him allow Porter to bully him around my gut was telling me that he should have been more assertive, though I did have him winning clearly. And yeah he has no chance vs Mosley. No chance in hell.
Thurmans strength is that he's short and stocky which makes him a solid puncher but he's affletic enough to fight like he's taller and rangier. His problem is he doesn't consistently use his talent to establish and maintain range consistently. He doesn't seem to have confidence in his jab so he starts bouncing and giving up ground instead of controlling his man or setting up another attack. He fought the first round against Porter perfectly. He kept Porter off balance and at mid range and punched into whatever lane Porter tried to come through. He came out the second round and was like "now what was I supposed to do again?"
I might re-watch the fight again tonight, but from what I remember from Saturday it was early-on when Porter's pressure was bothering Thurman the most. By the mid-rounds Keith started buzzing Porter with clean counters. Thurman's a solid counter puncher. That's his biggest strength, along with his decent athleticism. He ain't Sal Sanchez, but he's a decent counter puncher. He'd definitely land a good number of clean counters on Mayorga. The question is, what happens when Mayorga hits him?
God no, I don't like Mosley and don't rate him high but he's definitely superior to either of those cunts from Saturday night
He's a good counter puncher but he doesn't have the power to consistently lay people out and he's not a good enough defensive fighter to just kill time in between his counters. He needs to either work on his movement and jab and be more of a pure counter puncher or be more of a boxer-puncher that can move and counter in spots. The latter seems more attainable for him.
