GGG vs Kell Brook - Sep 10th at the O2

It is disappointing so far... The Brook fight is a joke. Everybody knows that and the article brought nothing new to the table... When Golovkin was Spence's age though he was with Universum who were on the verge of bankruptcy and didn't know what they had there.

 

I wouldn't say the brook fights a joke- hes a world champ and he claims to be very big at the weight. It's hardly worse than fighting some unknown 14th ranked contender or similar

 

He comes from two weight classes up. If it was one weight class and he claims he's big there, fine, but two? But yeah it's more intriguing since Brook is a name fighter...

 

I agree with you on Golovkin.

IMO, he doesnt seem to have that ´´Oh Fuck.´´ reaction from guys today if they pulled his name out of a draw of ´My Next Opponent´, in the way of McClellans, Jacksons, Hearns´ , etc, back then would...

 

I don't agree with that at all, and Spence is my favorite fighter.

Canelo is a better fighter than Thurman.

Peterson is a shit welterweight.

And Porter is a bum.

Jack is a solid fighter, and DeGale is a good fighter.

If GGG beat those 3 guys it'd be a lot more impressive than beating Thurman, Porter, and Peterson.

 

At least, if he was a dominant ww, it would be more acceptable. As it is, he's pretty much an unproven commodity even at ww, since he only fought one good guy there, and it was far from a blowout.

 

I give Canelo a better chance at beating GGG than I would Thurman beating Spence.

Spence will royally fuck Thurman up, *Trump voice* I guarantee you that!

 

i dont think highly of porter at all, but him and peterson are better than degale and jack. and thurman at welter is better than that piece of shit alvarez at middleweight where his main advantage isnt as pronounced.

 

That's crazy talk.

DeGale alone is a better fighter than Peterson and Porter.

We're talking about welterweight Peterson here. Lamont was a good fighter at 140. At 147, there's nothing special about him.

And I hate Canelo with a passion, and I like Thurman, but Canelo is plain and simple a higher quality fighter than Thurman.

I think Golov will beat the Hell outta Crapnelo, but I think Ginger gives him a tougher fight than Thurman would give Spence.

 

Chunky DeGale is the shit

 

DeGale is nothing special - he's just better than Shawn Porter. That's not saying a lot. Porter is a skill-less grappler.

 

de gale is a weird one. He's the kind of guy who will look all shitty for two three rounds, then give you a glimpse of greatness for 30 seconds. He's a bit like Eubanks sr in that regard (even though their style is not similar at all).

 

If he retired today he'd be remembered as an exciting phenom who guys were scared to death of and so he never got that signature win or much of a resume. Nothing would change if he knocked out Degale and Jack because the only people claiming those are the fights to make are not only part of a dying breed of boxing nerds but they're also 'haters' with ulterior motives...

It's sad that boxing is in this state. One guy can blatantly duck another because they know their fans, fans of guys they've fought, and haters of the guy that they're scared of will create a smoke screen.

Boxing doesn't offer enough of a quality product and the people that get into or are still into it seem to be more into reality tv aspect of it than anything.

 

And Hagler would lose, or find himself taking short-arse money, and probably just stagnate.

 

word. Hagler would lose to most top supermiddles. Roy Jones, Andre Ward and Calzaghe would have kicked his ass.

 

I think that giving GGG criticism on the basis of what Hagler WOULD have done {a pure, baseless hypothetical} is a fairly weak way of casting aspersions on GGG.

It's like saying that if Ali hadn't have been able to get the big fights at HW that he would have dropped down to 175 and kicked ass, or that if Quarry was around today he'd be beating guys up at 200lbs, etc.

GGG is expected to shoulder the blame because a guy who calls himself a MW won't fight GGG at the MW limit.

If there was nobody at 160, the argument is weak, to begin with.

But there IS somebody at 160, he just prefers to call it 155 and beat up Cotto and fucking bum arse Kirkland......

.....and gets a big money fight against Floyd, loses, looks totally shit....and fights guys like Khan.

GGG is BLAMELESS in all of this.

 

GGG is blameless in regard to the Canelo fight not happening. HeM< far from blameless when it concern the rest of his shitty career

 

What Ulterior Motive???...Don't Go Half Way w/the Shit, What EXACTLY is the Motive???...

REED Only Wants GGG to CHALLENGE Himself, Period...How is Winning a World Title in a 2nd Weight Class a BAD Thing???...If GGG's Really this So-Called FEARED Killer, if He Really KO'ed Sergey Kovalev in Sparring and Acquitted Himself Nicely Working Against the Likes of Carl Froch and Chavez Jr., Why WOULDN'T He Move Up, as Opposed to Wasting Time w/Subpar, Non Descript Middleweights or a Fucking WELTERWEIGHT???...

Or Better Yet, Agree to the CATCHWEIGHT Canelo's Wanted All Along, Because THAT's Why They've Yet to Fight...It's EXACTLY What Golovkin Demanded of Andre Ward Years Back, for Ward's Supermiddle Title...Contrary to the GGG Narrative, Ward WASN'T "Scared to Death" of GGG, but Since he Didn't Agree to a Catchweight, the Fight Never Transpired...The Problem w/Fans Like YOU is You Allow GGG To Burn the Candle from BOTH Fucking Ends and You Never EVER Hold HIM Accountable for the Fact he Has s SHIT Resume, Bordering on 35 Years of Age...

The Dude has CAKEWALKED his Way to Fame and Fortune Having Done as LITTLE as Any Fighter in Recent Memory...That's an Undeniable FACT...And Instead of Throwing a PITY PARTY, Claiming Guys are "Scared to Death", Why Not Go a Division Where Guys WILL Fight You???...







REED:mj:

 

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seriously, that is why theyve yet to fight?

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Hmmmmm...

You're LITTERING your Post w/Laughing Smiley's, Yet the LAST Time REED Broached this VERY Topic, You agREED w/Him...







REED:hammert:

 

I agree that golovkin should fight alvarez at 120 lbs or whatever the fuck alvarez wants.

i do not agree that alvarez would take the fight at any weight. there is no evidence of this.

alvarez allegedly agreed to the fight for late 2017. there was no talk of weight. only talk of timing.

 

REED pretending the Ward-Golov and Golov-Canelo situations are the same is SHAMEFUL. Shameful, and an insult to our intelligence and his own.

There's a HUGE HUUUGGGEEE difference.

Golov was never the lineal super middle champion of the world, demanding that Ward fight him at 161, while claiming he's not a super middleweight.

Canelo is not only a ducking faggot, he's making a complete mockery of the sport, which makes people dislike him MORE SO than the ducking.

If Canelo was consistently fighting for the JUNIOR middleweight title, and ducking Golov, not as many would care.

But the FACT is he's been fighting as a MIDDLEWEIGHT (any fuckin pound above 154 is middleweight), for the LINEAL middleweight title, and avoiding Golov on the basis of "I'm not a middleweight".

Oh and btw, this NON-middleweight comes into the ring on average about 7-8 pounds HEAVIER than Golov.

Canelo's a faggot, ducking puta, and REED defending his ducking speaks to the personal dislike he has of Golovkin.

Golov-Ward was NEVER the biggest fight to be made in the sport. Canelo-Golovkin IS! And Canelo is hiding behind his crossing dressing boyfriend to avoid it. Which is fine by the cross dresser, because he's in no hurry to watch his cash cow get embarrassed by an elite fighter.... again.

 

I've said it before and will say it again... there's an EXTREMELY pronounced difference in size between Ward and Golov. Standing next to eachother, it literally looks like a man standing next to a boy. Which is why it's better that Ward pick on a man who's actually his SIZE in Kovalev.

Ain't no size difference between Canelo and Golov! Golov is an inch or two taller, that's about it. If anything, Canelo is the stockier and bigger man.

Canelo's a bitch. Plain and simple.

 

Calm the fuck down motherfucker!

You must exercise forgiveness towards the Scottish looking Mexican.

 

Canelo is acting like a bitch in regard to the GGG situation. But for the whole of his career, he's been a lot less bitch-like than GGG.

 

Even PRIOR to Canelo Beating Cotto, it was COMMON KNOWLEDGE He'd Exercise a Catchweight to Face GGG...Same Shit Cotto was Planning On Doing...

THEN, GGG and his Trainer (@ Separate Times) Made it Known he WOULD NOT Accept Anything Under 160..."Not Even an Ounce" was the Quote from Abel Sanchez, if REED's Not Mistaken...This was @ LEAST 3-4 Months Ago and it Fuuuuuurther Shows Just How Full of Shit GGG is and How His Fans ALLOW Him to Burn the Candle From Both Ends...

If he's "NOT a Big Middleweight" and In Need of a BIG Fight, Accept the Catchweight???...Or, @ the VERY Least, SAY You'll Accept the Catchweight, That Way, if Canelo STILL Put the Bout on the Backburner, Even Mexican Fans Would BLATANTLY Call Him Out for Ducking...

The Fight Hasn't Happened Because...

A. GGG Won't Accept Canelo's Catchweight
B. GGG Wasn't SMART Enough to Call Canelo's BLUFF on the Catchweight







REED:mj:

 

I never heard alvarez or golden boy say they'd fight golovkin at 154 lbs this year

They flat out said no fight until sep 2017 at the earliest

 

Personal Dislike???...You've Alluded to Such For the LAST Couple Years Now, Yet Not 1nce Have you Presented Anything TANGIBLE...The FACT of the Matter is YOU'RE a GGG DickRider, Brother X...Please Duly Note, GGG's Got Some ASIAN In his Lineage Though, & There's a Pretty GOOD Chance He's NOT Well Endowed Enough to Accommodate the Level of NUTHUGGERY You Persist In Hoisting Upon Him...

In REED's World, Catchweights Are Either All GOOD or All BAD...When You Start Pinpointing "Acceptable" Instances of Catchweights, it's 99.9999% of the Time Based on BIAS FOR the Fighter Exercising Them...Which is Why YOU and GGG's Gallery of Go-Go Girls Actually See a DIFFERENCE in GGG Insisting on a Catchweight for Ward, While Being UNWILLING to Accept One with Canelo...

Again, There AREN'T Levels of Catchweights...They're Either All GOOD or All BAD...Leonard vs LaLonde, DeLa vs Hopkins, Pacquiao vs Cotto (and Whomever Else), Floyd vs Canelo, Cotto vs Martinez, Geale and Canelo, Canelo vs Khan, ALL of Them...All GOOD or All BAD...Picking the Ones YOU Think are Cool is Mere DICKSUCKERY, No More, No Less...

OFFICIALLY, Canelo's NEVER Weighed In Heavier than 155...He's Also NEVER Fought an Opponent Heavier than That for the Middleweight Title...Canelo has WON and DEFENDED the Title @ the Same Weight...

What this All Boils Down to is Team GGG Burning the Candle from Both Ends, Being HYPOCRITICAL, Being CONTENT Having a SHIT Resume and Making Millions, as Opposed to Doing EVERYTHING Possible to Get that BIG Fight...Because Guess What, After that ONE Big Fight Win, GGG Calls ALL The Shots!!!...

But Let's Get Back to the SACK SLURPERS Like YOU...You Pound Your Chest On What GGG's Done to Kovalev and Chavez Jr and Froch in SPARRING, Yet it's Okay for Him to Demand a Catchweight for Ward Since he's "NOT a Big Middleweight"...And Even Though the "NOT a Big Middleweight" Said he'd AGREE to a Catchweight w/Floyd, He CAN'T Be Bothered to Accept One w/Canelo...

The Bottom Line is, GGG COULDN'T Care Less about His Boxing Legacy...If he DID, He'd Have HAD a Big Fight By Now...But Why SHOULD He Care???...He's Got Fans Like YOU Repeatedly ABSOLVING him of Anything, Even his BLATANT Hypocrisy...






REED:mj:

 

There's No Fewer than 5-10 Different Articles from THIS YEAR Alone, Throwing Out the POSSIBILITY of a Catchweight, Followed by Stories from GGG and Abel Sanchez DISMISSING the Idea of a Catchweight...And All Along, the Catchweight Being Thrown Out There was 155, NOT 154...

If You've Never Heard Mention Made of This, You Simply HAVEN'T Been Paying Attention OR, You're Blinded by Loooooove for GGG, Like the Rest...

Team Canelo "Flat Out Said No Fight til Sept. 2017" AFTER Team GGG Made it Clear they WOULDN'T Accept a Catchweight AND the WBC Made it Clear They Were Going to STRIP Him of his Title...






REED:mj:

 

Reed doesn't want Canelo to get destroyed by GGG because he's scared fans will compare it Floyd, and he wants Canelo to establish himself as a good win for Floyd. Hed much rather see GGG fight and hopefully lose to another black defensive fighter in Ward because he likes Wards chances better and he's not connected to Floyds legacy.

He'll counter this with how he "hates Floyd as much as anybody" but we all know it's bullshit. It's bitch shit really. He'd rather enable a guy he wants to see do well then actually see the fights happen for the good of the sport but he's trying to convince everyone it's the exact opposite. GGG is ruining the sport by ducking John LeGaul and Mambo Steve. Lol