Best of Puerto Rico by Category

Rank the best PR fighters of all time by category.

I'd say:

Most complete - Ortiz

Best Boxer - Benitez

Best Puncher - Trinidad (Rosario a very close second)

Best Boxer-Puncher - Gomez

Fastest - Camacho

Best chin - Juan Laporte

Best defense - Benitez

Smartest - Ortiz

Most talented Overall - Benitez or Gomez

BEST - Ortiz


What say you?

 

Terrible topic and terrible categories to start it.

 

My bad. I'll make sure my next thread is "Best of Grand Rapids by Category"

 

That's better. Much easier to answer and to the point.


Seriously though, here's my criticism:

For, example, you have these three categories:

BEST
Most Complete
Most Talented Overall

What the fuck is the difference between those three?

 

What's the functional difference between Smartest and Best Boxer?

Seems like you're pulling categories out of your ass. next time don't take shortcuts and rush a topic, take time to think it through properly. Just some advice. ;)

 

Most complete- Ortiz

Best boxer- Benitez

Best puncher-Trinidad and Gomez

Best boxer-puncher- Gomez

Fastest-Camacho

Best chin- Laporte or Camacho.

Best defense- Benitez for sure.

Smartest- Benitez and Ortiz

Most talented- Benitez

Underrated- DeJesus

Best- Ortiz

 

Orlando Cruz blows them all away.

 

We know he's ur favorite....him n Emile Griffith. Cruz is soo soo brave...

 

:nono:

DANIEL ALICEA!!!

 

The best of Puerto Rico Juan Manuel Lopez fights the great Wilfredo Vazquez in 30 minutes

 

This fight isn't too bad

 

Juan Ma Lopez is back and fought Vazquez's trainer after stopping him

 

Wilfredo Vazquez Jr. officially retires due to (rumored) detached retina

 

JUANMA is BACK

 

#1 In Yemenistan On Trent

 

Juanma didn't look good, though.

Slower than ever and pushing his punches. On the plus side, he did appear to be in very good shape but he can't compete for a title.

 

:crafty: ?............The fuck you doing in Puerto Rico? Baked-neck... Here yee, Lord English Bullington, overseer, West Indies cane plantation, guarantor as witness to Irish captives yielding low dividends. Request more Congolese, and no more of these.

 

I'd never call DeJesus underrated. Most people actually overrate him because of his victory over Duran. I've heard quite a few person saying that if it wasn'T for Duran he would have been a legend, yet, the rest of his career doesn'T really point toward him being that good.

 

Only two guys beat DeJesus in his prime - Duran & Cervantes. Cervantes was simply too damn big for him, as DeJesus had no business at 140. He was dominant at 135 minus the two Duran losses.

I wouldn't pick DeJesus over the very best of all time at lightweight, but I'd pick him over guys like Rosario and Camacho.

I think he belongs in the HOF. Much lesser guys than DeJesus are in the HOF.

 

DeJesus was tremendous

 

Steven was certainly hof worthy. He'd whup these guys today

 

Yeah, I certainly wouldn't give fuckin Terry Flanaghan, Robert Easter, and Jorge Linares much of a chance against DeJesus.

 

HOF is all political.

Somebody really would have to explain to me how Barry McGugian is more deserving of the Hall than DeJesus.

Four guys who I think are deserving of the HOF, but have yet to make it: Curry, Rodrigo Valdez, DeJesus, and Julian Jackson.

I think Corrales deserves in as well. If you put that fuckin scrub Gatti in for being "exciting", then why exclude Corrales? He was even more exciting than Gatti, and several levels better.

 

You sound like Trump!

Every single Duran, Leonard, Hearns or Hagler opponent is deemed as tremendous, if they have a victory over the said Fab 4 fighter.

If Esteban were fighting in the 2000s, Mayweather and Pacquiao would have taken turns in whupping DeJesus' ass!

 

Mayweather beats DeJesus but it's competitive.

But DeJesus counters the shit out of Pacman for 12 rounds and schools him.

 

The HOF has absolutely no credibility. I stopped caring about it a long time ago

 

Leave it to Sly to turn a topic about DeJesus into a Floyd/Pac discussion.

In Sly's mind, no fighter pre-90s had skill.

DeJesus would have been a very difficult fighter for both Floyd and Pac at 135.

And Cervantes IMO beats both at 140.

 

Well, as I said before, if you do the time you may as well do the crime. So I'll inject Floyd/Pac into any discussion as i see fit.

Floyd beats everyone at 135/140lbs. Pac beats most.

 

:atu::atu::laughing:

You'd have grounds to stand on if you'd actually viewed fights of these guys. But the truth is, and you can't even deny it, you haven't.

You know nothing about an Ike Williams, or a Joe Brown, or a Carlos Ortiz, or an Ismael Laguna, or a Cervantes. You just assume Floyd is some unbeatable God like a MAINSTREAM fan would.

You're a boxing fan second, and not a hardcore one.... you're a Floyd groupie first and foremost.

Whereas some of us (myself included) are students and fans of the SPORT in general more than any fighter in particular.