::::NBA:::: 2016-2017-2018 Season

The Warriors were without question a better TEAM than the Cavs. They proved that in the regular season, and throughout most the series.

Three things won it for the Cavs:

1. Bron whining and getting Dray suspended for game 5. That tilted all the momentum.

2. Bron and Kyrie going into God mode games 5, 6, 7.

3. Curry, admittedly, shitting the bed for most of the series.

But that doesn't change that overall, GS was the best team of 2015-2016.

ALLLLL the stars just seemed to align for Cleveland those last 3 games, and they were able to get by a better team.

 

Durant shitting on okc in first half

 

Andre Ward getting a couple minutes in the 2nd quarter was more interesting then this blowout

 

Nope...

The Bottom Line is YOU OVERRATED Steph Curry All Aloooooong...Period...REED, Brother Tap and Others TRIED to Tell Your Ass, but You REFUSED to Listen...Check the Threads From PRIOR to Last Year's Finals...Even THEN, REED Said "When he WANTS to Be, LeBron James is STILL the BEST Player in the League"...You SCOFFED @ the Notion, yet Now You're Giving BACKHANDED Props???...

LeBron OUTPLAYED Steph in 2 CONSECUTIVE Finals, Brother X...FACT!!!...Hell, Kyrie SHITTED On Steph in Last Year's Finals...YOU Weren't Trying to Hear ANY Excuses When LeBron Took Golden State to Game 6, SANS Kyrie and Love in 2015, Yet You REALLY Wanna Cling to Draymond NOT Playing Game 5 in 2016???...Draymond EARNED that Suspension from his Actions in the OKC Series, Using Steven Adams' Ballsack as a Double End Bag in MORE than 1 Game...

Sure, Golden State Was the Best Team of the REGULAR SEASON...They Shot for and SURPASSED the Chicago Bulls Record...But NOfuckingWAY Can You Say They were BETTER Than Cleveland, When the Motherfuckers were LUCKY to Come Back from a 3-1 Deficit to OKC...

The Cleveland Cavaliers are THE Best Team in the Woooooorld, Until PROVEN Otherwise, and LeBron James Has BEEN The Best Player on the Planet for the Better Part of the Last 10 Years...No If's, And's, But's, Caveats or HINDSIGHT Bullshit About It...




REED:Mot:

 

No Doubt...

Talked Shit to the OKC Bench and Everything...

39pts...




REED:Mot:

 

curry and igoudala not being 100% contributed to them losing in the finals as well.

 

Kyrie Irving and Kevin Love Being INJURED Contributed to Cleveland Losing the 2015 Finals....





REED

 

I agree and said as much that year, particularly irving

 

Wow the Dubs look like shite against the Lakers

 

Curry and Klay both shooting well below their norms, and Klay in particular looks like absolute shit right now.

 

warriors just missed a million open shots vs the fakers

 

Clippers put a whuppin on San Antonio

 

Clippers have an actual backup pg this year in felton, speights is also an upgrade. when Brice Johnson returns their bench should be one of the elite in the league

 

Yes. Yes. I was wrong.

Lebron James is still the best basketball player in the world. Ya happy?

Expect Curry to now become UNDERRATED.

Let's be clear about something - Lebron is better than Curry, but Kyrie WISHES he was as good as Curry.

Replace Curry with Irving on the Warriors, and they never sniff the finals.

Irving is a bad matchup for Curry though. He's an inferior player, but seems to have Steph's number.

 

Nobody ever mentions him, but NY's own, Kemba Walker, has become one of the better PG's in the league. He's an explosive scorer when he's on, and actually a pretty damn good defender. He's also has that alpha mentality, and has been unafraid to make the Hornets HIS team.

No, he's not in the same league as Curry, Westbrook, CP3, ect... but he's easily a top 10 PG, and one could argue him over a guy like John Wall.

It's refreshing to see, since MOST people projected that Kemba would never thrive in the league, and would likely be a serviceable back-up. He definitely proved most ppl wrong.

Same with Isaiah Thomas.

 

Lakers are going to be good. They play hard and hustle, Randle looks likes he's taken a big leap in improvement, but I think their biggest strength is how strong their bench is. Having Lou Williams and Clarkson who both fill it up, along with Ingram who already looks like a pretty good shooter and play maker as the 2nd unit while also occasionally staggering them with the starters should be a good advantage against most other teams 2nd units. The only question for the team will be defense, experience and closing out wins.

 

Durant was on my OKC team and trust me he is a bit overrated. Don't get me wrong, he is great, but everyone thinks he's great in a LBJ or Jordan kind of way when he's actually great in a Dominique Wilkins or Chris Webber kind of way. He'll always have great numbers but he doesn't know how to win or make his teammates better. Maybe he'll get there with the Warriors but right now I put zero faith in him.

Also that Golden State game he played was a little flukey. I've watched him for years and he can occasionally have a great game like that, but more often than not he's just very good. I mean that was the game he made his career high in three pointers so that alone tells you it was a fluke. In fact when Durant was in OKC I shit you not I had more faith in Deion Waiters three point shooting than I did in Durant's. Once again, maybe he'll be better in GS (as everyone who leaves there seems to improve).

To be honest I don't even miss him. We may have lost a chance to win in it all by losing him but it actually looks like we have a system now and we're playing pretty good so far.

 

Forgot about Speights. He was another valuable bench guy that got gutted out of Golden State when Durant came. I'm growing less and less confident in the Warriors. They're starting to look more and more like the Clippers of the last several years. Nice starting line-up, not much depth, and a little bit soft outside of 1 or 2 players.

 

I think people will start saying Klay's bad shooting streak is the result of Durant, but to be honest he was shooting just as inconsistently in the Olympics.

 

Klay should be even more open, with Durant on the team. I think REED might be right. He's a moody fucker, and he just figured out how to create his own shot last year. I'm guessing the coaching staff wants him to go back to spotting up and leaving the driving plays to Durant and Curry.

 

He is more open, he's just not consistently hitting his shots. He's just in a mini slump, it'll pass.

 

The truth is the middle. The truth is, KD is not as good as MJ or Bron. Never will be. But there's absolutely no shame in that. MJ and Bron are the two best wing players in history. But he's CLOSER to those two than he is to Dominque. Kevin Durant is a much better basketball player than Dominique Wilkins and there's absolutely ZERO argument to the contrary. Wilkins was a better dunker, that's literally it. Hell, IMO Wilkins wasn't even as good as peak Vince Carter, let alone KD.

And LMAOOOOOOOOOOOO @ Chris Webber. That fuckin bum (sorry REED) is about 5 levels below Durant.

Webber's BEST season doesn't even sniff a DOWN year for KD. That's how big the gap is between those two.

Chris Webber is among the most overrated players in league history.

 

Saying that KD and Chris Webber are in the same league is the equivalent of saying that LeMarcus Aldridge and Kobe are in the same league.

 

Brother X, You're QUEEN BEE of Kneejerk Reactions/Exaggerations and THIS is Perhaps You're FINEST Work Yet...

"5 Levels"???...Really???...Webber's "Best Season Doesn't Even Sniff a Down Year from KD"???...Really???...

2000-01 (Arguably Webb's Best Season)

27.1pts, 11.1reb, 4.2ast, 1.3stl, 1.7blk...


Durant from LAST YEAR

28.2pts, 8.2reb, 5ast,1stl, 1.2blk

If That AIN'T "Sniffin" Distance, REED Doesn't Know What Is...And Duly Note, Durant's NEVER Averaged More than 8 Boards in a Season and the 5 Dimes he Averaged Last Year was a Career High...Hell, Webber AVERAGED a Double Double (Something Else Durant's NEVER Done) for 6 Straight Years and BARELY Missed in 6 ADDITIONAL Seasons (Putting Up 9.1reb, 9.6, 9.5, 9.1, 9.7 and 9.9)...

Also, Webber's Had a 5.4ast Season AND a 5.5ast Season...2 Seasons HIGHER than the Very Best Assist Season of Durant's Basketball Life...

Webber's CAREER #'s

20.7pts, 9.8reb, 4.2ast, 1.4stl, 1.4blk


Durant's CAREER #"s

27.4pts, 7.1reb, 3.7ast, 1.2stl, 1blk

Durant's OBVIOUSLY a Better Scorer, Shooter, 3pt Shooter, but in Ever OTHER Category, Webb has BETTER #'s...If You had Said Durant was a TIER or So Better, REED Wouldn't Have Even Responded, but "5 Levels" is Bullshit...If You TRULY Believe That, You're UNDERrating Chris Webber's Production and Need to Familiarize YOURSELF w/his Stats and Footage...






REED:kidcool:

 

The five levels below statement was an obvious exaggeration, and I knew it was when I typed it.

But there's a rather BIG gap between them as players, and that's NOT an exaggeration.

I know C-Webb is your boy, but I maintain he's one of the more overrated star players of all time. Since Durant entered his prime, I'd take all of his seasons over C-Webb's best. He's plain and simple a much more impactful player than C-Webb ever was.

You're talking about a perennial MVP candidate versus a guy who was an MVP candidate for one season..... 01.

I'm not even a Durant fan. I actually kinda dislike him. But he's already a top 5 all time SF. He's a top 10 all time wing player period.

There's quite a few PF's in history who I'd take over Webber. He's NOT one of the great big men to play this game.

The BEST thing I can say about Chris Webber is that he was a terrific passer. In THAT regard, he was one of the better big man passers of all time.

But he was lacking in too many other areas, including intangibles.

Well, I'll say one more good thing about him.... he's a superb commentator.

 

webber also played on teams that best utilized his skillset. the system in sacramento for several years, and even when he started in golden state. durant is just now getting into such a situation finally being away from westbrook

 

That Kings team team was one of the deepest teams ever. Just stacked, and had BRILLIANT chemistry. So it's not like C-Webb was carrying them. He was the most talented player, and he was the best overall player, but Bibby was the most clutch and the go-to guy.

Whereas in 2014 Durant single handedly carried the Thunder to 59 wins and to the WCF. Past a Clippers team that was more talented overall, but lost cause Durant was that good.

C-Webb was never capable of that kinda impact.

I say he's overrated because in the early 00s people actually DEBATED if he was as good as Duncan.

Sounds laughable in retrospect.

 

I'd take a prime Sheed Wallace over C-Choke anyday. Wallace played elite D, unlike Webber. And Wallace had a great post game and could hit clutch shots, unlike Webber.

 

You Keep SAYING There's a "Big" Gap, but WHERE Is it, Exactly???...You Have to ELABORATE w/REED, Because Simply Pulling Exaggerations Out of Your Ass Ain't Working, Playboy...

Like REED Said, Durant was CLEARLY the Better Scorer, Better Shooter % Wise and Better Shooter from RANGE...Webber was CLEARLY the Better Rebounder, Passer and POST Scorer...And Keep in Mind, Durant is Actually TALLER than CWebb...Neither Man was Worth Shit as a Man to Man Defender, Yet Webber has BETTER Defensive Stats...

Not Only was Webber the Superior Passer, Webber FACILITATED from the Post...Durant Has NEVER and Will NEVER Be a Facilitator...@ His Best, Webber was CLEARLY a Better Finisher @ the Rim Too...

Webb was LESS of a Perennial MVP Candidate Due to the ERA He Played In...Jordan, Barkley, Robinson, Olajuwon, Malone were ALL Contemporaries of Webber's, He was Just the Young Buck...Then Came Shaq, Kobe, Duncan, Dirk, KG, Nash, etc...Kevin Durant HAS NOT Had That Level of Competition, in Terms of Garnering MVP Votes...Durant's Had to Contend w/Kobe, Bron and Now Steph, Pretty Much Exclusively...Yuuuuuge Difference...

You Just CAN'T Help Yourself when it Comes to the Exagerrations...Last Year it was "Steph's BETTER than LeBron"..."Steph's ALREADY BETTER Than Isiah Thomas"..."No PG's EVER Had a Better Season than Steph's '15-'16 Season", Even Though Big O AVERAGED a 30pt Triple Double for an Entire Season AND Tiny Archibald LED the League in Scoring (Over 30+) AND Assists...

Now, Durant's a Top 5 Small Forward???...Already??...Bron, Bird, Baylor, Dr. J., Pippen, Worthy and Others Just MIGHT Disagree w/You...

Durant's a GLORIFIED 2-Guard, in Actuality...But Since he's Right @ 7ft Tall, he's Listed as a Small Forward...And There's NOT a Chance of Him Registering on a Greatest 2 Guards List, So Be Careful Saying he's a "Top 10 Wing All Time"...

Over the Last 20-25 Years, Point Guard and POWER FORWARD Have Been the NBA's Deeeeeeeeeeeeeeepest Positions...Just Like Almost EVERY Team Has a GOOD PG Today, Just about All Of Them Had a Good PF When Webber Played...REED'll Say This Though, Until Kevin Garnett Surfaced, Chris Webber was ARGUABLY The Most Athletic and Versatile PF EVER...

Again, REED Won't Even Argue Webber's BETTER than Durant, but to Sit Here and Act as if Webber ISN'T Even in Durant's League, is Preposterous...You Clearly HAVEN'T Looked at His Numbers OR Games in Quite Some Time...






REED:hammert:

 

The THEME for Today is "Elaborate"...

The OVERUSED Narrative is that Westbrook Somehow HINDERED Durant's Game...OKC was Durant's Team from Day 1, as X Pointed Out, Motherfucker was a PERENNIAL MVP Candidate in OKC and Durant Won like 3-4 Scoring Titles...

So How EXACTLY Was Westbrook Hindering OR Holding Durant BACK???...






REED:hammert: