Ward Kovalev did 160.000 buys??

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  1. Neil

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    i just simply dont enjoy watching ward fight. his style is not entertaining. i liked the mayweather jr vs berto fight more than any fight ward has ever had. people say lomachenko is boring. winky wright is boring. i like their styles, though. wards just not a guy who is interesting to watch operate to me
     
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    Since Floyd was brought up i would like to take this opportunity to remind everyone he have cars.
     
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    Neil tueur de grenouilles

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    exciting cars. i bet ward drives a kia sedona
     
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    You Found that FARCE More Entertaining than Ward-Kessler or Ward-Dawson???...Or Ward-Kovalev???...






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    While REED Agrees with the SENTIMENT of this Post, he Just Wanted to Say he Found Floyd vs Zab, Hatton, Shane and Cotto to Be MORE Entertaining than the TYPICAL Floyd Fight...





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  6. Xplosive

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    Ward-Froch is the only compelling Ward performance. That's a fun clinic to watch. Mainly because the bum farmer talked all that shit about roughing Ward up, and Ward threw him around like a rag doll.
     
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    Floyd's had some dreadful fights, but his best fights are better than any Ward fights.

    For instance, the Ndou clinic was 10x better to watch than any Ward fight.

    Andre Ward is just an extremely boring fighter.
     
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    Hopkins should never be mentioned with Ward, btw.

    Hopkins didn't become very boring until around 04-05, when he almost 40.

    During his physical prime, Hopkins was fun to watch.

    Andre Ward has A L W A Y S been boring.
     
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    The Mayweather hate is strong in Muzse. I'm sure the guy can force grab, force choke and produce Sith Lightening just at the thought of Mayweather. lol

    Mayweather has had a few disappointing fights and he's never had anyone as good as Kovalev in a weight above him, in recent years to even fight, so that's not his fault. But he did move up twice to take on the best at 154lbs...De La Hoya and Canelo. And in both instances he beat dat ass.

    Floyd showed grit against Hatton, Judah, Mosley, Cotto and Maidana. Sure in most cases he ended up winning the fights easily...but that's not his fault, the boy was just that good. Mayweather is unfairly represented by boxing fans..all on account of his odious out of the ring persona. We must learn to separate the man from the fighter when evaluating his career.

    Oh and...I mustn't forget...

    He have cars!
     
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    absolutely. i was at ward - dawson and it was probably one of the worst big fights ive been to. never again

    ward kessler was a headbutt grapple fest. the kovalev fight was better than your typical ward fight, slightly.
     
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    During his physical prime he fought very few guys with a pulse, Jones being the exception.

    Ward is better than Hopkins ever was and has proven it since the Super 6. Yes, Ward fights very similar to the older Hopkins, but it's the older Hopkins that made Hopkins' resume. Ward just does it better and younger.
     
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    I enjoyed Kovalev-Ward. It wasn't blood and guts but it was a compelling fight and interesting to watch, especially as I had no real horse in the race. Maybe part of it was down to finally seeing Ward in a competitive fight.
     
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    No doubt. In fact he is one of the few great fighters who was never involved in a great fight. The numbers are purely down to the out of the ring stuff.
     
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    That fight happened in 2003. That's 13 years ago.

    Even as good as that fight was (for Floyd) N'Dou was never on the same level as Kessler, Froch, Dawson or Kovalev. He was never on par with Arthur Abraham.
     
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    If you liked Winky Wright's style that within itself says a ton.
     
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    Corrales was on par with them though... that performance was damn sure more electrifying than any Ward fight.

    Doesn't matter that it was early in Floyd's career. He was fun to watch in his 20s.

    Andre Ward was NEVER fun to watch.
     
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    Prime Hopkins woulda beaten the crap outta Ward.

    To say Ward is better is borderline lunacy.
     
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    Wright had several fights more entertaining than any bout ward has been in
     
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    wright/vargas was good
    wright/taylor was good
    to name a few
     
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    15 years ago.

    The point was/is as Floyd grew more popular his fights became more unwatchable. You're making my point.
     
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    I think the correlation is age and weight, not popularity.

    Having said that though the Hatton fight was in 2007 and that was an entertaining fight by any measure. Cotto fight was decent too.
     
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    The Mosley fight showed Floyd's mettle, IMO. Any previous doubts about whether Floyd had heart or resolve should be squashed after that one. He was legitimately hurt and shaken up, EARLY, and instead of running and retreating he advanced on Shane for the rest of the night. IF the fight was boring it wasn't because of Floyd, it was because of Shane just not being in his class.
     
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    He got hurt briefly against a past prime guy he was expected to whitewash and then he recovered and whitewashed him. Wow.

    If he had jumped from 130 to fight Shane when he was at 135 it would've been comparable to Ward fighting Kovalev. But he didn't. No one really criticized him because it was clear Shane would tear his asshole out at that point. So keep that in mind when you talk about Floyds dominant career and mystique of invulnerability.
     
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    So you're saying if Ward became popular his fights would kill the average man on sight?
     
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    Tyson was expected to wipe out Buster Douglas but when things weren't going his way he folded. Jones was supposed to dominate Tarver but he got knocked out cold and in the rubber match just wanted to survive. Hearns was supposed to dominate Barkley but got knocked the fuck out and in the rematch still lost. Mosley was supposed to dominate Forrest....the list goes on. Many fighters in history were supposed to dominate a particular guy and when things went against them...they lost. So Mayweather, whether or not he was supposed to win, is irrelevant...the fact is, he was in slight jeopardy and rose to the occasion to not only win but to dominate. He responded like a champion.

    Floyd's career was dominant and over good opposition over 2 decades, 6 weight classes, plethora of champions and titlists and he is undefeated. I didn't make this up...these be the facts.
     
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    By the way it's merely conjecture to suggest lightweight Mosley would have beaten lightweight Mayweather. IMO styles always favoured Mayweather. No way a speedy slick slugger could ever contend with a master boxer.
     
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    Mosley was a giant lightweight with more than enough foot speed to catch up to Floyd and more than enough hand speed to get to Floyd. It was so plain Mosley would fuck him up that it wasn't even a fight people were really calling for. Mosley moved up and fought DLH where as Floyd didn't move up to fight Castillo until Shane was well out of the picture. You can argue the point now, but you wouldn't then.

    This isn't to accuse Floyd of ducking Shane, but when you talk about how dominant Floyd was thru his career it's worth noting that when he was in his prime at his best weight he wasn't considered a match for the most notable, prime, elite fighter near his weight. Now you're claiming he "proved his mettle" fighting that same guy like 12 years later on the downside of his career and still almost getting knocked out.
     
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    the point is, ward has NEVER been watchable. youre one of the 3 actual people i know on line or in real life that actually seem to enjoy watching the guy fight.
     
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    Mosley would have fucked Floyd up at 135.
     
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    Of course you'd say that. You always pick fights based on who you like better or find more exciting. Didn't you pick Lacy to fuck up Calzaghe?

    In an MM Floyd doesn't have damaged hands or shoulders...we'd have to assume that he's fully fit and the same animal that destroyed Corrales. Shane is not beating that Floyd at all. No sir.
     

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