Pretty self explanatory. From 1977-2017, who are the five BEST fighters the sport has seen? I'll say, in no order: Duran Leonard Jones Whitaker Mike Spinks Honorable Mentions: Floyd, Hagler, and Chavez.
Jones Mayweather Leonard Whitaker TYSON!! Honorable Mentions to PACQUIAO, Duran, Chavez, Hagler, Calzaghe
I think if you asked Mike personally if he believes he was better than Duran, he'd probably say "GET THE FUCK OUTTA HERE! HELL NO I WASN'T!" And Calzaghe???? LMFAAOOOOO!!! I knew you'd provide a laugh.
Truthfully, I excluded Duran to cause a stir (you didn't disappoint) but I would have him at 5...based on his lightweight reign though. Calzaghe is a great talent though...hate him all you want. Didn't you pick Lacy to beat him by the way? ;)
Hell yes he is. if nothing else he proved himself against post-Tarver-pre-Pavlik Hopkins. But aside from that his fights against Eubank, Kessler and then undefeated Lacy proved that his unbeaten record wasn't acquired by accident. He's underrated because of his ugly style of fighting and the fact that he's a white Welshman.
Hmmmm, let's see... 30 off the top of my head, in no order. I could easily list more, but I'll start with 30 just to show you how ridiculous your statement is. 1. Jones 2. Duran 3. Leonard 4. Whitaker 5. Spinks 6. Hagler 7. Mayweather 8. Chavez 9. Tyson 10. Hearns 11. Arguello 12. Holyfield 13. Holmes 14. Pac 15. Sal Sanchez 16. Gomez 17. Benitez 18. Pryor 19. Ricardo Lopez 20. Mike McCallum 21. DLH 22. Hopkins 23. Qawi 24. Carbajal 25. Mosley 26. Mark Johnson 27. Morales 28. Marquez 29. Barrera 30. Trinidad Please let us know whom on this list Calzaghe was a better fighter than, so we can all laugh at your joke/non-knowing boxing ass.
How do you define better? We need a clear definition from you...since YOU'RE the one claiming that my position is outlandish. You see, from what I understand....and correct me if I'm wrong...but "better" in boxing is all about who is better able to win fights. Key to this ability is the art of hitting and not being hit. Also key...is the ability to take it once hit. Integral also is the ability to outlast your opponent through superior stamina. Additionally the ability to adapt and triumph over varying styles etc is also important. If you have a different definition of "better"...by all means please share with us. If you have the same definition...please tell me how each of those fighters is better overall than Calzaghe in those areas. Should be fairly easy for you to do since you seem so certain. I don't expect to get a response to my questions though as I firmly believe that you're are filled with copious amounts of fecal matter.
For the record I DON'T consider Calzaghe one of the top five fighters of the last 40 years but he was better than quite a few guys on that list.
No way is hagler higher than pbf, and i like him a lot more. Pacman is without a doubt in there. What he did was pretty much unprecedented And huge at calzaghe
I'd say Qawi, Carbajal and Mark Johnson are at least questionable. Also there is no huge gap between Calz and the likes of Oscar, Mosley, Tito, Holy etc
Get the entire FUCK outta here! Calz was certainly NOT as good as prime versions of Trinidad and Mosley. That's absurd. That protector slapper's undefeated record sure does overrate the living shit outta him! Circa 99-00 versions of Mosley and Trinidad were on a level that Sloppy Joe never saw, and any sane boxing fan can see that.
For the record, here's my top TEN best of the last 40 years. Once again, in no order: Duran Jones Leonard Whitaker Spinks Floyd Hagler Chavez Tyson Pac HM: Sal Sanchez
Aint that absurd ? Dude spent his entire career fighting the Mario Veit and Will Mccynthire (don't care enough about this clown to check how his name is spelled) of this world, and his career best win is a contentious decision against a geriatric Hopkin, yet this is enough for some to be considered at the level or above than guys like Tito, DLH, Qawi and Mosley ???
I just wish we could invent a time machine and match prime Mayweather and Pacquiao against some of these past greats. These guys are so underrated it's not funny. Pacquiao would have given Duran FITS!!!!!!! Fits I tell ya! I can see it clearly but boxing fans refuse to believe it. There could come a fighter in the future that has the defense of Whitaker, The stamina of Armstrong, the power of Julian Jackson, the handspeed of Ray Leonard and the chin of Hagler...and "boxing fans" would still say Duran would have beaten him. Bunch of ignorant cunts....
Tito and Mosley were good fighters but I personally never rated them as highly as some of you guys were on SecondsOut. I've made that clear countless times, just don't rate them. Nothing to do with an undefeated record, just the fact he had a higher ring IQ than either of them and was, well, a better boxer with more versatility.
Calzaghe isn't in my top 5 but I mentioned him because he's grossly underrated. The guy was an extremely good fighter. People picked Lacy to beat him...he dominates Lacy..Still no respect. They pick Kessler to beat him..he beats Kessler clearly yet still no respect. He beat Eubank easily...no respect. He beat a still capable Hopkins, still no respect. It's not like Calzaghe only fought bums. That combination of handspeed, workrate, stamina and awkwardness is very rare in boxing. I hated his style too, make no mistake, but who gives a shit? The guy was VERY difficult to beat.
Damn. Michael Spinks is being pretty damn underrated in this thread. Am I only one who recognizes how good he was? I consider the light heavyweight Spinks to be a better fighter than Chavez. One of the most underappreciated technicians of all time. It's a goddamn SHAME he's only remembered for being smoked in 91 seconds. Being smoked in 91 seconds by a much bigger man who himself was all time great.
He should be remembered for that. It was a cowardly performance from an undefeated guy. I'm glad people only remember that cunt for that. He gave up before the bell even started. Where was his pride? Where was his dignity?