5 Best Fighters of the last 40 years

The Tommy Hearns that tortured Dennis Andries whups that guido faggot

 

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funny how the euro overrate that slapping coward ::


Guy gets a contentious decision against Methuselah hopkins, and now he is some kind of nearly-unbeatable legend (yet, he needed a gift to get pass Robbed Reid). Both Ward and Kovalev would beat the guy easily.

 

Did you pick Kessler to beat Calzaghe?

 

Im skeptical calzaghe beats a younger eubank, toney, hopkins, tarver, ward, kovalev, michalczewski, moorer, or stevenson

 

The greatest fighter who ever lived is Lennox Lewis.

'P4P' is a bitter schizophrenic fantasy.

 

"Gram for Gram"as it is known around these parts.

Dudes sniffing up the white lines........"Andries was tough man.......Jeff Harding, innit"

 

*Harding, *Fenech, *Horn,.. *our Jeff, *our Jeff, *our Jeff,.. special regenerative abilities mate.

 

Beat an aging, dead at the weight guy, then go life and death with a male model

To me that justifies a 7 year hiatus from facing a live body

 

Harding is closer in talent to fenech than horn is to harding

 

You cannot go 45-0 in any era without serious talent and ability.

I think there must be like a Boxing Bermuda Triangle at the midpoint of the Atlantic.

If you cross it, from West to East, by the time you land in England, you become really really shit.

 

But this is the Brits through and through: re-writing history.

For years, Calzaghe was 'Sick Note' and them he beats the "super-middle-Tyson' in Jeff 'Left-Hook' Lacy.
Easily.
"Amazing performance! One for the ages! Cements legacy!"
Errr....the clue to beating Lacy. ...is right there in his nickname. :dunno:

Then we have the Kessler fight at Cardiff (symbolic, of course) and the wins over aging legends Hopkins & Jones Jr.....and youve got a P4P HoF'r.

That's how the Brits spin their sporting heroes....

 

Yes, but consider the opponent: Dennis Andries. Lol

 

Better than any Calzaghe opponent not named Hopkins

 

Calzaghe would not have lost to Andries or HArding.

 

Kessler is better than Andries and I'd pick Old Jones over Andries too to be honest. Andries was woefully slow and had bad stamina.

 

That absurd to say the least. Shitty Marty Jakubowsly was 37-0 wen he faced Chavez and 88-1 when he faced MAGO. You could easily beat a 45-0 record while only being decently talented. Since you're so ignorant about the sport, it is no wonder that you think Calzaghe is some special talent

 

I see. 37 is the new 45.

Even Brian Nielsen, feeding on stiffs, got caught out when he tried to push it too far.

Dickie Ryan took his asshole that night in Copenhagen :nono:

 

yeah, you're right. If jakubowkski had won 8 more fights against stiffs before facing Chavez, then it would have really proved that he was a special talent ::

And actually, Brian Nielsen was 49-0 before getting koed by a bum, so I guess he was also a special talent ::

 

I was a fan of Calzaghe and I consider him a great fighter, but euro fans have slowly grown balls the longer he's been retired. When he was active they were all so scared he'd be exposed as a euro stiff they barely endorsed the guy. Now they "don't rate" Mosley and Trinidad like the great Sloppy Joe. It's a joke.

 

I agree.

and in addition to this,.. I enjoyed getting to know Hopkins middleweight mandatories, it reminded me of those thousands of videos going over Mike Tyson's early career,.. we met quite a few of these otherwise invisible characters, just trying to feed their families, real people.

 

Indomitable Sammy Schaff, Drunken Mick Jameson, put me on the Cadillac Board.

 

and "They've all come to look for America" :dunno:

Integrate or die, integrate or die.

 

In calzaghes case though, that 45-0 included wins over Lacy, Eubanks, Kessler and Hopkins and more importantly, a host of championship fights.

Undefeated run before facing champions or defending against top contenders is different to undefeated including championship level fights

 

Not when you're defending a wbo belt on Frank warren cards it isnt

 

Collins pulled out, Eubank went on up to 190 and went life and death twice with Carl Thompson, who knocked out David Haye 7 years later.

Richie Woodhall was due to unify with Calzaghe before he dropped a decision to MArkus Beyer, Calzaghe fought him and knocked him out in his next fight.

Hopkins ran from him, and Ottke refused to leave Germany and Joe was probably right not to go there........never fight in Germany, blah blah.

 

Good point but you can't discount some of the top guys he did beat. Eubank, undefeated Lacy (who was permanently damaged physically and psychologically after that vicious one sided beating), Kessler and most importantly Hopkins.

 

Kessler was good enough for the Super 6. A tournament they only dared compile after Joe had fucked off.

 

Obviously Slappy was a good fighter that had a good career but no one considered him on the level of the guys he's being compared to when they were actually fighting because he clearly wasn't as good and he wasn't fighting that kind of competition. He needed to redeem his career and he did it against two guys Mosley and Trinidad would've smashed up with out much fuss on regular HBO and two old guys he should've fought when they weren't old.

I'm a fan of his and I think he's under rated in a lot of circles but Euros have clearly grown bigger balls when it comes to Calzaghe as he's retired because they were scared to get embarrassed talking him up while he was still fighting.

 

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Mosley, the Mosley that lost to Cotto and Vernon ::

He's beating who, exactly, Jeff Lacy :atu: