Fighters who rose to a different level in one fight

Discussion in 'General Boxing Discussion' started by Ugotabe Kidding, May 31, 2017.

  1. Ugotabe Kidding

    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    I began to think about this as I re-watched De La Hoya vs Vargas today (it was an excellent and somewhat underrated fight btw.)

    In the fight, Vargas wasn't necessarily better than before but his strength was astonishing. He was Foreman-esque in there, moving Oscar back with punches that landed on shoulders, hurting him with short hooks and bullying him around easily. Never before nor after did Vargas look like that, later we also found out why.

    Buster Douglas in the prime example of this. Can you come up with others, to me it seems more difficult than I thought
     
  2. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    Since we know the reason WHY Vargas was so strong in the DLH fight, it doesn't count.

    A good example I can think of is Sean O'Grady vs Hilmer Kenty.

    Granted, Kenty was allegedly sick going into this fight, but it doesn't change the fact that O'Grady fought like a man possessed. He never before or after fought at that level again.
     
  3. Interesting thread. I didn't understand what you meant until I read your opening post.

    The answers would all have to be lesser fighters; guys that are not "great" as the great ones are great because of consistency.
     
  4. Kirkland Laing?
     
  5. Mosley vs De La Hoya. Sugar Plain Nosebleed was never better than he was in that fight. He seemed particularly inspired that night. He lost to ever other top level fighter he faced.
     
  6. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    Now Shane Mosley was a one-hit wonder...

    Don't feed the trolls...
     
  7. Neil

    Neil tueur de grenouilles

    Mosley destroying Margarito was the most impressive performance/victory of his career
     
  8. Which other top fighter did Shane Mosley beat?

    Forrest? Wright? Cotto? Pacquiao? Floyd?

    Oh yes.....Rivera, Wise, Diaz, Taylor and Stone......I forgot. ;)
     
  9. It was impressive, I agree. But Margarito was pretty much a face first slugger. He had no boxing acumen.
     
  10. Neil

    Neil tueur de grenouilles

    Bowe in the first holyfield fight
     
  11. whiskey

    whiskey Czarcasm

    Victoria Ortiz against Berto.
     
  12. Good one.
     
  13. Good one. Bowe was at his absolute peak in that fight.
     
  14. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    PEDs
     
  15. Rumour has it that Shane was on PEDs when he "beat" Oscar in 2003
     
  16. Double L

    Double L Book Reader

    Not really. Because Margarito had had loaded gloves before that. And in retrospect, it made all the difference.
     
  17. KaukipRrr

    KaukipRrr "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Nice to see the forum has progressed on it's concerns about performance enhancing drugs, the minority of us who were ostracized and mocked during the Floyd / Pac negotiations can come back out now. :emoji_sun_with_face: :emoji_turtle:
     
  18. Jesus of montreal

    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    talking about Margarito, he's a good example in this thread, since the first cotto fight is pretty mcuh an abberation in his career
     
  19. REEDsART

    REEDsART MATCHMAKER

    Indeed...

    Motherfucker SUCKED All the While...Punch Resistance was LITERALLY Margarita's ONLY World Class Attribute...

    Ever...






    REED:cool:
     
  20. Erratic

    Erratic "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    I really have only seen a small few of Eddie Mustafa Muhammad's fights

    Would the Marvin Johnson fight count?

    Also, Ray Mercer going even thru 10 (on my card) with a 1996 Lennox is better than any of his wins IMO
     
  21. Erratic

    Erratic "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    I would say stamina/workrate was another
     
  22. Nah....Margarito destroyed Cintron, six heads Lewis and Sergio Martinez as well.
     
  23. Bordon

    Bordon Undisputed Champion

    And the Marg that won these fights, beat Clottey and lost to Williams and Pac didn't look any different than when he fought Cotto.
     
  24. The Genius

    The Genius DEMONRY!!

    We didn't like opinion being stated as fact as it related to Pac. No one ostracized you.
     
  25. KaukipRrr

    KaukipRrr "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Would make an interesting precedent you know, an olympian for example, refuses to submit a specimen on request, then sues WADA for defamation, after they fine him or her the full penalty. :emoji_deer:
     
  26. The Genius

    The Genius DEMONRY!!

    Not relevant. That's the norm in the olympics. I assume Floyd had that testing in his following fight?
     
  27. KaukipRrr

    KaukipRrr "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    He did. But more importantly, he kicked off a rather destabilizing debate about the nature of USADA's policies as prejudiced, thus defamatory as a consequence. An objector receives fines equal to that of a disgraced test, it violates the presumption of innocence, and so through legal precedent, perhaps we can liberate the Olympians, the UFC and any other athletes chained up by regulations, le, le, lesss, lless, less regulations, less regulations equals more jobs! :emoji_deer:

    To half the forum, - it was "something worth fighting for" o_O our most revered battle music. 'Lest we forget'.
     
  28. The Genius

    The Genius DEMONRY!!

    Zzzz. I'm glad he kept up. Still didn't mean that stating your opinion as fact and getting called on it was ostracizing you. Particularly as options were split fairly evenly. We finally have a working search function, feel free to relive it.
     
  29. KaukipRrr

    KaukipRrr "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Everybody involved had an opinion, but there was only one way to prove it as a fact.... :emoji_deer: ...sadly, someone pleaded 'indefinite innocence' until proven guilty.
     
  30. The Genius

    The Genius DEMONRY!!

    You mean the guy that accepted the tests?
     

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