OFFICIAL DISCUSSION: Floyd Mayweather Vs. Conor McGregor |August 26 2017

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  1. Muzse

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    As if Floyd cares. As long as the check clears he's happy.
     
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    McGregor has a 0.00000000001% chance of winning, that being if Floyd suffers a freak injury.

    I'm getting a slight kick out of trolling and laughing at all the people who think McGregor will win or has a serious chance.

    How hard is it to understand that this is a different sport which takes years to master? You don't take a person competing in the decathlon and expect him to beat Usain Bolt in the 100.

    So many people are idiots when it comes to boxing and think it's easy. Like Jim Brown thinking he could actually hang with Muhammad Ali in boxing. :emoji_punch::emoji_raised_back_of_hand:
     
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    I'm thinking of placing a bet for Floyd to win in the first 4 rounds. I think there is easy money to be made there.
     
  4. Rich ´Money´ Mustard

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    I'd say McGregor has a chance.
    Like 4%.

    In a reverse situation, Mayweather would have 0%.

    It'd actually be funny if, just for the sheer fuck-off-ness of it all, McGregor sneaked in a head-kick behind a punch which pole-axed Mayweather.
    Just to see Mayweather unconscious for 5 minutes.

    But of course, there's a Mayweather/Elherbe contractual stipulation that would forfeit McGregor’s purse.
     
  5. Destruction and Mayhem

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    Serious question:

    How hard is McGregor's left hand really? That's his only weapon in a boxing match...and MMA fighters are not as experienced and prepared to take punches as boxers are and MMA gloves are no where near as padded as boxers gloves.

    In a boxing ring, McGregors punches may be featherfists...and his vaunted punch power is his only chance
     
  6. Rich ´Money´ Mustard

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    Yeah I've been pondering that also.
    From 145-170lb and his last four fights:
    * José Aldo - dropped in 13 seconds but that was an anomaly. Flash knockdown, caught cold.
    * Nate Diaz I - busted up his face
    * Nate Diaz II - dropped 3 times but Nate might have been accentuating the effects to take the fight to the ground
    * Eddie Álvarez - dropped 2 times by straight fast lefts and stopped

    However, 4oz gloves were used and no-one was actually knocked out like the way Canelo or Golovkin or Kovalev knock guys out.

    I think McGregor has similar power that Roy Jones Jr wouldve been associated with at 168-175lb: power from speed and accuracy...
     
  7. Anthony

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    Dont forget Brimage, Siver, Poirer, Brandao and Mendes all ended with that left in some capacity.
     
  8. Jeffy

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    Mayweather has 0% chance? That is ridiculous. With 4oz gloves Mayweather definitely has a shot of landing something on Conor. It's not like Conor was some world class wrestler or anything.
     
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    exactly. It's quite feasible that Floyd would land a hard shot that changes the fight before Conor has a chance to kick or grapple. MMA guys don't have chins as good as boxers. A mayweather punch with 4oz gloves would be like a Hearns punch.
     
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    MMA guys have great chins just like boxers do. Lets see boxers get hit with 4 oz gloves and see their reactions.
     
  12. Rich ´Money´ Mustard

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    * Kicks
    * Elbows
    * Knees
    * Punches
    * Single / Double-leg takedowns

    And that's before any armbars or choke-holds

    So Mayweather has LESS than 0% in an MMA contest having not done ANY of this this.*

    McGregor at least...can punch.
     
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    Boxers get hit on the chin far more than MMA guys so they are more trained to take those punches. I see MMA guys get knocked out with shitty arm punches.
     
  14. Rich ´Money´ Mustard

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    * Except punching
     
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    So basically, what you're saying is that in a street fight a boxer has zero chance against an MMA fighter?
     
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    oh please. I seen MMA guys hit with kicks to the fucking face and not move one inch.
     
  17. Rich ´Money´ Mustard

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    For a boxer - he has a chance..

    For a chickenshit play-by-my-rules, never-take-risks Mayweather...Less than zero.

    Unless, like myself, you actually know anything about MMA, Muay-Thai, Brasilian Jiu-Jitsu (very few posters on this forum, especially the boxing fraternity) and unless like myself, you've regularly participatied in any (even fewer posters on this forum, explicitly the boxing fraternity) then you're either clueless and/or ignorant, hate MMA or hate the way boxing has dropped to this sideshow level...
     
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    It depends...

    That Brazilian Dyke beat Rousey just on punches alone. Rousey was never given the opportunity to grapple. So a boxer can certainly beat a judoka. A kicker would probably beat a boxer 9 times out of 10, I'll grant you that...so it depends on the style coming in against the boxer. It also depends a great deal on reflexes, movement and speed.

    You, for example, are experienced in Mixed Martial Arts from what you say....in a ring you'd probably still get fucked up by a prime Tyson, for example.
     
  19. TFK

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    Yes, but when Connor puts on the gloves and steps into the ring, and the bell rings, he will officially become a boxer. So I can only assume his chin will dramatically improve on the spot.


    TFK
     
  20. TFK

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    So how bad will this fight actually be?

    Ali vs Inoki bad?


    TFK
     
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    If I put on a helmet and pads and pick up a football, it wouldn't automatically make me a quarterback. I don't think my throwing arm would dramatically improve on the spot
     
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    pretty sure you throw like a girl, sally
     
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    Yeah, but boxers have better chins than MMA fighters. You said so yourself. So as soon as McGregor becomes a boxer, his chin will improve, according to your logic.


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  24. Rich ´Money´ Mustard

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    Yes we're now getting into variables:
    Boxing v Karate
    Brasilian Jiu-Jitsu v Krav Magalhães
    Wrestling v Muay-Thai
    Etc. Etc

    My own experiences have gone: Boxing > Muay-Thai > Brasilian Jiu-Jitsu

    It's actually quite alarming when you spar, using Boxing against someone trained in Muay-Thai.
    Alarming and humbling.
    You realize real quick that the only way to get anywhere is to box on the outside and keep moving.
    The boxing stance alone is massively susceptible to leg kicks.
    And taking say, 5-7 of those and you're struggling to walk let alone move around. ..
     
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    Please, I've thrown a football over 200 yards before.


    Was one of the best dreams I've ever had.
     
  27. Rich ´Money´ Mustard

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    Okay so it's a very tenuous analogy.
    The point is McGregor doesn't have the equivalent of Julian Jackson-esque power...
     
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    I'd give Floyd a better chance in MMA against McGregor than vice versa.

    Floyd would at least have the slim chance to catch McGregir when they are standing up. He may not be a big puncher by boxing standards, but I'm sure he'd do plenty of damage to wobble opponents with well placed shots with 4 oz gloves.

    McGregor on the other hand, has to spend the whole fight in the same boxing rules/style that Floyd has mastered, he has practiced and mastered for three decades.
     
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  30. Rich ´Money´ Mustard

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    Dude, Mayweather wouldn't last 30 seconds in an Octagon against the very basic MMA fighter.
    He would spend 20 seconds jabbing and literally running before being taken down and either smashed or submitted...
     

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