OFFICIAL DISCUSSION: Floyd Mayweather Vs. Conor McGregor |August 26 2017

The style and attributes of a boxer in the ring have nothing to do with whether they're a good street fighter or not. Pro fighters are people who punch people in the face for fun. They may not all be as sadistic as that sounds but they're all tough fighting men. And if a fight breaks out they aren't going to start circling the perimeter of the bar and flicking out jabs. If it makes sense they might just scoop you up, drop you on your head and kick you...

There our journeyman pros with day jobs who box to make a little extra money, travel a bit, and enjoy their hobby. Those are the most dangerous street fighters because they box because they can fight. Not the other way around.

 

Fighting against anyone trained in combat sports (regardless of discipline) isn't a good idea. You're not going to throw hands with a boxer, outkick kickboxer, outwrestle a wrestler or anything like that. For your own personal health and dignity, just walk away and leave it alone,

 

word.

The graves are filled with brave men.

 

It's pretty big, more of a cult following though I'd say. McGregor's success has certainly raised the sport's profile in recent years but it's still fairly niche, where as boxing has crossed completely into the mainstream now.

 

If a fight broke out in bar between them Floyd isn't going to start pivoting between tables and circling the dance floor looking for jabs and counters. And McCregor isn't going to patiently break him down with leg kicks.

There would be an exchange of punches and if no one got folded up they would grapple with each other. You would expect Floyd to have a big advantage and McGregor to be in danger when they're swinging but it's not a boxing match where you have to do it right more often than your opponent. It's a street fight and in the heat of the moment Floyd may zig instead of zag and get ktfo. You would think McCregor would have a big advantage if they tangled up but he's not too heavy for Floyd to pick up and if, in the heat of the moment, he shifts instead of slips or steps on floyds foot or stubs his toe and loses his balance Floyd might slam him and stomp him.

It's important to these office workers to think that you have to go to a dojo and "study for a year" to know how to wrestle, choke, slam etc. If the argument is that grappling and wrestling are important practical parts of a real fight why would you think people that know how to really fight don't know the basics of wrestling?

 

Yeah, primarily Brasilian Jiu-Jitsu...but also Vale Tudo, which definately isn´t one-trick ponyism - it´s MMA without the rules.

 

True, but what´s ´real fighting´? Who would you consider a ´real fighter´?

 

It will be a topic of conversation in a pub amongst casuals, it will garner the same interest at work, people have fight parties etc. Nothing will ever overtake football here but I hear more people discussing boxing now than I do rugby or cricket, which have generally been the "second sports" on these shores.

 

A no holds barred random encounter if we're talking about a street fight. If it's a more official 'settling of differences' then bare knuckle boxing is the purest, fairest "real fight".

 

You tell that fucking Englishman what's going on.

 

I only knew of Bisping because I have a friend who is a big MMA fan and I'd see posts on FB where he'd mention him. McGregor was the first guy I saw where casuals were chatting about him. Maybe it's bigger outside of London though and I'm not seeing the bigger picture.

 

LOL.

 

For an alleged "dying" sport, MMA fans sure do feel threatened by boxing.

They can't explain why THE biggest star in their sport's history had to call out, then acquiesce to a boxer.... in a boxing ring.... in order to make such a big combat sports event.

 

Your argument is terrible. You really think that Floyd has a chance to pick up, slam, stomp and out grapple Conor?? Who has been training grappling, judo, and wrestling for years? I don't think you realize the difference in core strength here. Floyds only chance would be to catch Conor coming in with something big, and hope he stays down. Other than that, Conor has every advantage.

 

You don't have a problem with me saying McCregor could knock Floyd out with punches in a street fight but the idea that a world class athlete has the "core strength" to pick a 160 lb man up is absurd because you're an office working hobbyist that's more sold on the mystique of one action than the other.

Pernell Whitaker could get hit with a punch in a street fight and the grand dragon black belt of Jew Tudo can get slammed on the ground. People that know how to fight know the basics of boxing and the basics of wrestling.

 

This just shows that you know nothing about grappling. Getting hit with a money punch is a big difference from picking up a trained grappler who knows how to defend it. The likelihood of this happening is slim to none. Just about as slim as it is for Conor landing a wild haymaker on Mayweather.

 

Yeah I'm done with him. He speaks nonsense

 

Street fight is different. Even in the octagon there are rules. If Conor McGregor decided to stick his hand up the skirt of the wife of an athletic and agressive 200lb man at a bar, don't think Conor's MMA training would be guaranteed to protect him from an ass whupping.

 

Yes, but street fighting is more about the element of deception and the willingness to do absolutely anything to win. Also in combat sports, you fight to conserve your energy..in a street fight you're just trying to debilitate your opponent as quickly as possible by any means necessary. There's no code of conduct on the street. Therefore, any athletic/strong/aggressive man could win.

 

There is a big difference between a spontaneous assault on an unsuspecting person and squaring off in the middle of the street.

 

Guys like Lennie McLean or Roy ´Pretty Boy´ Shaw...the former who was full of shit, a bully who claimed he had 100s of fights but actually had a 15-5 record.