Obvious Quit and Dives

roy jones against Tarver 3. The fight may have gone the distance and so on the surface this example doesn't appear to qualify but the fact is that Jones went into the fight not to win but to go the distance and that is quitting. He could have won that fight if he tried...but he was too scared to get hit. I'm a die hard Jones fan but that was shameful for a once great fighter

 

Yup. There was that one round where he clearly showed he still has it...but he was afraid to put it on the line.

 

I was the original Roy Jones fan on boxingpress/ secondsout before REED assumed the mantle. The flack I now get for Mayweather was what I was previously getting for Roy.

 

The problem is unless a fighter admits to it, there is rarely enough evidence to say a dive was 100% due to corruption. It doesn't matter if the dive was absolutely obvious. It doesn't prove some quid pro quo was going on. It could just be a case of a guy knowing he can't win and figures he'll just lie down. In their mind that way they don't get hurt and still get paid. If they go out on their shield they don't get a bigger check at the end of the night. Will that almost surely put an end to their career? Yes, of course but that's irrelevant. Once somebody sees something like what Mario Cawley did against Rahman it's over either way. It's not as if people are going to say "oh so it wasn't because of cowardice, but instead he got paid to do it? Therefore i'll watch him fight again if there's no bribery."

 

Worst. Dive. Ever.

 

That dude should be called Viagra. Just refuses to stay down.

 

In hindsight, I almost give Frietas a pass for quiting against Corrales. He was out of gas, unable to keep Corrales off of him, and getting bounced up and down off the canvas. And in Corrales, we're talking about one of the sport's most devastating punchers of the last 25 years. It was a quit job, but it wasn't among the most shameful quit jobs.

 

Mike still showed more heart vs Lewis than Tua did.

Now that was a case where a man quit without getting stopped.

 

Ridiculous Take, Especially Considering Tyson is Arguably the Hardest 2 Fisted Puncher in Boxing History...

Tyson Landed a BRUTAL Left Uppercut, Preceding the MEATY Bodyshot that Dropped Spinks the 1st Time...& On the Video REED's About to Post, You Can Literally HEAR the Kill Shot Land...

Not Only That, but Look @ Spinks Head AS the Shot Lands...Rewind, then Watch Spinks LEFT FOOT as the Kill Shot Lands...

Tyson's Shot LIFTED Spinks' Foot Off the Canvas and Hurled him Backwards, Bruh...It's APPARENT When a Dude WILLINGLY Jumps Backwards, but Spinks was KNOCKED Backwards...Big Difference...

Yeah, Spinks was SCARED, but Like REED Said, Dude COMPETED 1nce the Bell Rang...Spinks M.O. was the 1-2 and he Probably Threw 5-10 of them in the 90 Seconds the Bout Lasted...Hell, he Even ATTEMPTED the Spinks Jinx on the Kill Shot...







REED

 

Sly's been saying that "Spinks took a dive" bullshit on here for almost 20 years now. Just tune him out.

Tyson knocked that n*gga unconscious. Period! Just because Spinks was scared, doesn't mean it wasn't still a clean KO.

 

Yeah, that's how I felt at the time. There was no hope of him doing anything other than taking more of a beating and it wasn't that he was able bodied and outclassed, he was used up and vulnerable.

 

Fast Forward to the 13:15 Second Mark, and Watch the Slomo Replay of the Kill Shot, from Various Angles...

That was a LEGIT Shot from 1 of the HARDEST Punchers Who Ever Lived, Landing Against a Naturally SMALLER Man...

Spinks Didn't Quit or Take a Dive, Brother Sly, he Got KNOCKEDthefuckOUT...






REED

 

I think we forgot that one of the most shameful quit jobs ever happened recently. DICKless Welters against Loma.

 

SADLY, REED has to Agree...

The Worst Part Is, Roy was HAPPY When the Fight was Over, HAPPY Just Going the Distance...To Him, Half the Battle was Facing his Demons, by Getting BACK in the Ring w/the Boogeyman, the Other Half was NOT Being KO'ed Again...

The Fight was Definitely THERE to Be Won, but Tarver Took his SOUL from Him...

It was the 1 and Only Time REED was DISAPPOINTED in Roy Jones...





REED:(

 

Speaking of Roy, Jones-Griffin I...

Even Though it Enabled Montell to WIN, he was Clearly EXAGGERATING the Effects of the Punch Roy Hit him w/...

Might as Well Mention Luis Santana Also, who Won and DEFENDED his Title Against Terry Norris, by Quitting...






REED

 

Orlin Norris vs V. Klit. Someone find that fight. One of the worst ones.

 

Hakkar was clearly shook early but once he got the nerves out he gave an honest effort. He was just completely in over his head. I thought HBO's commentary was pretty bitch ass. Lampley would be scared to come outside if he lived in Marseilles.

 

'Honey' roy palmer vs slim busby and minoso torres

 

Yeah that was pretty sad. A young and undefeated fighter in the biggest fight of his life packing it in. There's rarely if every a "satisfying" quit job, but it would have been a different story with a veteran who had high miles doing the same.

 

The fucked up thing about Walters was in the post fight interview he said something like "He had started to land punched and they were hurting me so...". I generally try to give fighters every benefit of the doubt but wtf? You're a FIGHTER!

 

Tyson-Seldon was an obvious one.

Spinks did not dive or quit against Mike. He was simply OVERWHELMED.

De La Hoya quit against Hopkins. He knew the beatdown was gonna get worse and he wanted no part of it.

Golota against Tyson was a blatant quit job.

 

Those loaded gloves hurt! The give away is the way heads spin violently when Trinidad landed. Tape. Tape. And more tape.

 

Tape is what's turning the war with ISIS around.

 

Let's not forget that before Vargas, Carr, DLH, and Daniel Santos, Jose Luis Lopez was the FIRST fighter who made Yory Boy Campas quit. In front of an entire crowd of Mexicans no less.