ADRIEN BRONER vs. MIKEY GARCIA July 29th???...

IMO Broner should have never fought over 135.

 

There's no way they'd make a stupid move like that when there is a lucrative fight at 135 with Loma and at 140 with Crawford. People on this site make WAY too much out of fight time weights.

 

Uuuuuuh, HURTING Maidana and DROPPING Shawn Porter are Better Displays of Power than ANYTHING Crawford's Done to Date, Bruh...

"Nice Try", but No One's Anointing Crawford a "Power Puncher" by Virtue of Shit Kicking Undersized Foes...Except You, Apparently...





REED

 

This...

Talk of Going Up to Welter Next Fight is ASSinine...Timing is Everything in Boxing and the Timing ISN'T Right for Mikey to Test Those Waters, Just Yet...

Undoubtedly, Mikey has the SKILLS to Fight @ Welter, but there Comes a Point where SIZE Negates Skill...

w/the Right Timing, Mikey Could have a SPECIAL Career...But Pushing the Limits of his Body Toooooooooo Sooooon Can Backfire, Just Ask Adrien Broner...


REED

 

Again, it's an ASSumption that Bob Arum will ALLOW Lomachenko or Crawford to Face Mikey...

Dude Sat on his Ass for 2 1/2 Years, Rather than Complete his Contract w/Top Rank...Wouldn't Surprise REED @ All if Arum Held a GRUDGE...Last Thing he Wants is to Risk 1 or Both of the Next STARS of his Stable, Against a Fighter that LEFT his Stable...

REED HOPES Both Fights Happen, but he Doesn't Trust Arum to Do What's Best for Boxing, ie., ALLOW the Fights to Happen...




REED

 

Who cares if you got power if you're too timid to commit to your punches like broner was for most of the fights vs garcia

 

How do people think Garcia's fights with Crawford and Lomachenko would go if they were to happen?

 

You guys just don't get it. Neither of those fights will happen.

 

Garcia clearly said after the fight he would fight anyone ON SHOWTIME. That means no Loma. And no Crawford.

 

Hbo fighters do not face showtime ones.

 

Yeah. And despite those guys being 5 times more famous than garcia/loma/crawford, they sti fought 7 years later than they should've and the fight almost didn't happen. Thanks for making my point.

 

Uuuuh, YOU Said "HBO Fighters DO NOT Face Showtime Ones". That was Your "Point", Doub...

REED Illustrated an Instance Where they Have, Barely 2 Years Ago...

The DELAY in Making that Fight was All About Floyd, NOT the Networks Unwillingness to Work Together...

While REED SHARES Your Doubt in Mikey vs. Lomachenko/Crawford Happening, Again, it WON'T Be the Networks Unwillingness to Work Together, Causing it...It'll Be Bob Arum...





REED

 

That was a bit of a unique situation though Reed because of the sheer magnitude of the event and the money it generated.

Apart from that and Lewis-Tyson are there many other examples of it happening?

 

Garcia vs Loma/Crawford is not happening, let alone GGG/Charlo. Not anytime soon anyway.

 

Have to disagree with you ( respectfully) brother REED.

The only reason the networks were willing to work together in the past were for MEGA events; Lewis vs Tyson and Mayweather vs Pacquiao.

Lomachenko, Garcia and Crawford do not have the star power to get around the network issue.

 

garcia is a free agent with no ties to any promoter or network. reed is correct, though. arum will block the fights out of spite

 

Here's What REED KNOWS;

Al Haymon Has NEVER Stopped his Fighters from Fighting on HBO, if That's Where the Money was...As Recent as 2013, Adrien Broner was Fighting on HBO...

HBO Aligned Themselves w/Top Rank and Collectively, they Drew the Proverbial Line in the Sand, When Golden Boy and Haymon Started Doing Business...1nce Richard Schaefer Left Golden Boy, MAINTAINING an Alliance w/Haymon, Golden Boy Returned to the Nest and Resumed Working w/Top Rank and HBO...

But as REED Stated Initially, Haymon's NEVER Discouraged his Guys from Fighting on HBO, if the HBO Fighter was the BIGGER Name and There was a Bigger Purse Involved...




REED

 

Right...

People Forget Haymon is a MANAGER, Not a Promoter...That's Why he Kept Golden Boy By his Side for a While, Just as he's Now Doing w/Lou DiBella...

If HBO Ponied Up MORE Money than Showtime Could Offer, for Lomachenk0/Crawford vs. Mikey, Haymon WOULDN'T Stand in Mikey's Way...In Fact, he'd ENCOURAGE Mikey to Take the Fight...

Errol Spence WANTED to Fight Kell Brook in England...Gervonta Davis WANTED to Defend his Title in England...And Haymon Didn't Get in the Way of his Fighters' Wishes...

But Yeah, Despite the WOODY These Matchups Give Hardcore Boxing Fans, it's Hard Imagining Bob Arum NOT Cock Blocking...




REED

 

I think Mikey loses to both Loma and Crawford, tbh. But both great matchups.

 

garcia isnt with haymon either, as far as i know.

 

He's PROMINENTLY Featured on Haymon's "Premiere Boxing Champions" Site on its List of Fighters...




REED

 

I'd take Garcia over Crawford because Crawford gets hit and can be hurt. I'd take Garcia over Loma because he's a lot bigger.

 

The opposite is also true.

We all know you're not that high on Crawford, but my opinion remains that nobody can beat him at 140. At 147, I think Spence would be too much for him, but he's the king at 140. I think he's more dynamic and versatile than Mikey, and would outbox him. For what it's worth, Crawford beat Mikey in the amateurs. No, I'm not claiming that's why Crawford wins, just saying.

As for Mikey-Loma, my GOD I would love to see that fight. Mikey has the edge in size and power, but Loma is a SPECIAL fighter.... special fighters have a tendency to beat very good ones.

 

For the record, I was ALWAYS higher on Jermall than Jermell, years ago I thought Jermall was better, even though at the time Jermell was more hyped.

I'm STILL not much of a believer in Jermell.. I think a top fighter will beat Jermell... but I'm man enough to admit I was wrong about Jermall.

 

REED Doesn't Have a Strong Opinion on Who Wins Either Fight (Yet), but he'll Say This...

Crawford ISN'T Appreciably More Dynamic than Garcia Is, In Fact, REED Would Say Broner's a Bit More Dynamic than Crawford, and he Never Bothered or Deterred Mikey in that Regard...

As for Lomachenko, REED's Dying to Know What Happens When (Not If, but WHEN) Mikey Catches Him w/Clean Shots...Lomachenko's Speed and SouthpawISM Could Trouble Mikey Early, but he'll ADJUST @ Some Point and Connect...

1 Things for Certain, Mikey Garcia Would Be THE Best Guy Lomachenko or Crawford has Faced to Date, as They Obviously Would Be to Mikey...

Two 50-50 Fights, Basically...






REED

 

Regardless, garcia was explicit that he would fight anyone on showtime.

 

REED Doubts Garcia, or ANY Fighter for that Matter, TRULY Gives a Fuck What Network they Fight On...

If an HBO Fight was Offered, if it Made Sense Financially and was DOable, REED Couldn't Fathom Garcia Bypassing It...





REED

 

Of course I wanna know how Loma will react to Mikey's power. It's not a GIVEN that Loma will handle his power.

But IF he can, I think he'll outbox Mikey. Mikey's skill level is excellent... Loma's skill level is special.

Loma's the most TALENTED and skilled fighter from 130-135 since the Grand Rapids tax evader.

 

The FOOTWORK is the Biggest Gap btwn them, Skillfully Speaking...

Mikey Would HAVE to Catch Lomachenko in an Exchange, Because his Own Footwork is Toooooooooooo DELIBERATE to Effectively Cut the Ring Off on Lomachenko, or Catch Him On the Ropes for Very Looooooong...

agREED on it Being a Loooooooooooooong Night for Mikey, if he's Unable to Hurt Lomachenko...Lomachenko Wouldn't Hurt Mikey Either, but he'd BEAT him to the Punch All Fight Looooooooong...





REED